We can still stay up - and will.

boltonbonce wrote:Burton and Barnsley have shown more balls in the last few weeks than we've shown all season. They won't be rolling over for Derby or North End.

Just like Derby or North End won’t be rolling over for them. Difference is these two teams have real quality and just as much to play for.

Great that both Barnsley and Burton also have to win can see them drawing but Derby have helped to put us in this position losing to Burton and Sunderland yet tonking us. Derby unreliable at the very least

wessy wrote:Great that both Barnsley and Burton also have to win can see them drawing but Derby have helped to put us in this position losing to Burton and Sunderland yet tonking us. Derby unreliable at the very least

Derby have been very unreliable but they can be caught by PNE which would put them out of the playoffs if they lose so it would be incredibly disappointing if either team didn't bring their A game. That said, if Derby are winning comfortably towards the end of the game, PNE might drop heads and cock it up - and I don't suppose they'd give a second thought to us going down given our playoff history with them. 
But if I could pick two teams to be our rival's opposition for the final game, Derby and PNE would be my choice and in that respect we've had a bit of luck in that the fixtures worked out so that they are the only two teams apart from Fulham and Cardiff who are battling for something.

wanderlust wrote:

wessy wrote:Great that both Barnsley and Burton also have to win can see them drawing but Derby have helped to put us in this position losing to Burton and Sunderland yet tonking us. Derby unreliable at the very least

Derby have been very unreliable but they can be caught by PNE which would put them out of the playoffs if they lose so it would be incredibly disappointing if either team didn't bring their A game. That said, if Derby are winning comfortably towards the end of the game, PNE might drop heads and cock it up - and I don't suppose they'd give a second thought to us going down given our playoff history with them. 
But if I could pick two teams to be our rival's opposition for the final game, Derby and PNE would be my choice and in that respect we've had a bit of luck in that the fixtures worked out so that they are the only two teams apart from Fulham and Cardiff who are battling for something.

(Not often we do eh, lusty )

y2johnny wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

wessy wrote:Great that both Barnsley and Burton also have to win can see them drawing but Derby have helped to put us in this position losing to Burton and Sunderland yet tonking us. Derby unreliable at the very least

Derby have been very unreliable but they can be caught by PNE which would put them out of the playoffs if they lose so it would be incredibly disappointing if either team didn't bring their A game. That said, if Derby are winning comfortably towards the end of the game, PNE might drop heads and cock it up - and I don't suppose they'd give a second thought to us going down given our playoff history with them. 
But if I could pick two teams to be our rival's opposition for the final game, Derby and PNE would be my choice and in that respect we've had a bit of luck in that the fixtures worked out so that they are the only two teams apart from Fulham and Cardiff who are battling for something.

(Not often we do eh, lusty )

So there's just the little matter of beating Forest then....

wanderlust wrote:

y2johnny wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

wessy wrote:Great that both Barnsley and Burton also have to win can see them drawing but Derby have helped to put us in this position losing to Burton and Sunderland yet tonking us. Derby unreliable at the very least

Derby have been very unreliable but they can be caught by PNE which would put them out of the playoffs if they lose so it would be incredibly disappointing if either team didn't bring their A game. That said, if Derby are winning comfortably towards the end of the game, PNE might drop heads and cock it up - and I don't suppose they'd give a second thought to us going down given our playoff history with them. 
But if I could pick two teams to be our rival's opposition for the final game, Derby and PNE would be my choice and in that respect we've had a bit of luck in that the fixtures worked out so that they are the only two teams apart from Fulham and Cardiff who are battling for something.

(Not often we do eh, lusty )

So there's just the little matter of beating Forest then....

Which isn’t going to happen....

We just have to beat Forest

karlypants wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

y2johnny wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

wessy wrote:Great that both Barnsley and Burton also have to win can see them drawing but Derby have helped to put us in this position losing to Burton and Sunderland yet tonking us. Derby unreliable at the very least

Derby have been very unreliable but they can be caught by PNE which would put them out of the playoffs if they lose so it would be incredibly disappointing if either team didn't bring their A game. That said, if Derby are winning comfortably towards the end of the game, PNE might drop heads and cock it up - and I don't suppose they'd give a second thought to us going down given our playoff history with them. 
But if I could pick two teams to be our rival's opposition for the final game, Derby and PNE would be my choice and in that respect we've had a bit of luck in that the fixtures worked out so that they are the only two teams apart from Fulham and Cardiff who are battling for something.

(Not often we do eh, lusty )

So there's just the little matter of beating Forest then....

Which isn’t going to happen....

Fucking hell kp.  Who got to you?  Was it Nat?  hes fucking brainwashed you hasnt he?  (No its not a typo!)

y2johnny wrote:

karlypants wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

y2johnny wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

wessy wrote:Great that both Barnsley and Burton also have to win can see them drawing but Derby have helped to put us in this position losing to Burton and Sunderland yet tonking us. Derby unreliable at the very least

Derby have been very unreliable but they can be caught by PNE which would put them out of the playoffs if they lose so it would be incredibly disappointing if either team didn't bring their A game. That said, if Derby are winning comfortably towards the end of the game, PNE might drop heads and cock it up - and I don't suppose they'd give a second thought to us going down given our playoff history with them. 
But if I could pick two teams to be our rival's opposition for the final game, Derby and PNE would be my choice and in that respect we've had a bit of luck in that the fixtures worked out so that they are the only two teams apart from Fulham and Cardiff who are battling for something.

(Not often we do eh, lusty )

So there's just the little matter of beating Forest then....

Which isn’t going to happen....

Fucking hell kp.  Who got to you?  Was it Nat?  hes fucking brainwashed you hasnt he?  (No its not a typo!)

I have gone somewhat positive to be fair in Norpig’s comp with a 1-1 draw with Alnwick the goal scorer. 

Ken said we will be all out attacking this time so I expect him to be banging the headers in off the corners!

WOW. Sluffy was right and so was Ken with his "all out attacking" speech. Fair play. However Parky still has to be booted out.

Never had any doubts to be honest when I wrote what I did at the start of this thread.

Derby and Preston were never going to roll over so that meant we only had to win.

If we couldn't win our last game in front of our rabid fans against a team that had absolutely nothing to play for then we would have fully deserved to go down.

Tbf we made it much harder than I thought it would have been but with the fans fully behind us we got the result and I'm really pleased Wilbraham got the winner and Parkinson (started the season under an embargo - no defensive midfielder in the squad until the embargo was lifted 9 games (and only 2 points in), were being quoted at 1,500 to 1 AGAINST staying up by the bookies, and had his top scorer and the teams key player sold halfway through the season without a proper replacement) kept us up!

They did it despite the abuse they received from so many.

Sluffy wrote:Never had any doubts to be honest when I wrote what I did at the start of this thread.

Derby and Preston were never going to roll over so that meant we only had to win.

If we couldn't win our last game in front of our rabid fans against a team that had absolutely nothing to play for then we would have fully deserved to go down.

Tbf we made it much harder than I thought it would have been but with the fans fully behind us we got the result and I'm really pleased Wilbraham got the winner and Parkinson (started the season under an embargo - no defensive midfielder in the squad until the embargo was lifted 9 games (and only 2 points in), were being quoted at 1,500 to 1 AGAINST staying up by the bookies, and had his top scorer and the teams key player sold halfway through the season without a proper replacement) kept us up!

They did it despite the abuse they received from so many.

The thing is Sluffy, in the last five or six games most of the players looked like they didn't give a shit. That is the problem. Look at Burton. Relegated, but gave it everything in every game. Don't get me wrong, I am so chuffed that we stayed up, but the players haven't exactly covered themselves in glory. All anyone asks is that they give 100% when they pull on the White Shirt. That has not been the case for most of them.

We go again with a new manager, and a lot of new faces.

MartinBWFC wrote:We go again with a new manager, and a lot of new faces.

I'm a little nervous about that. I do hope Parky goes, but I will believe it if and when it happens.

Dunkels King wrote:

Sluffy wrote:Never had any doubts to be honest when I wrote what I did at the start of this thread.

Derby and Preston were never going to roll over so that meant we only had to win.

If we couldn't win our last game in front of our rabid fans against a team that had absolutely nothing to play for then we would have fully deserved to go down.

Tbf we made it much harder than I thought it would have been but with the fans fully behind us we got the result and I'm really pleased Wilbraham got the winner and Parkinson (started the season under an embargo - no defensive midfielder in the squad until the embargo was lifted 9 games (and only 2 points in), were being quoted at 1,500 to 1 AGAINST staying up by the bookies, and had his top scorer and the teams key player sold halfway through the season without a proper replacement) kept us up!

They did it despite the abuse they received from so many.

The thing is Sluffy, in the last five or six games most of the players looked like they didn't give a shit. That is the problem. Look at Burton. Relegated, but gave it everything in every game. Don't get me wrong, I am so chuffed that we stayed up, but the players haven't exactly covered themselves in glory. All anyone asks is that they give 100% when they pull on the White Shirt. That has not been the case for most of them.

The thing is though the season has 46 games to it and Parkinson and the players got us - against the odds (sterner embargo/no centre mid until embargo lifted/selling key player and top goal scorer halfway through the season, etc) to the last game of the season with us having a reasonably good chance of staying up.

I expect other things have been happening in the background too that have effected things on the pitch that we have never heard about - probably effecting various players availability and thus team selections.

It came down to the last match and as I've said above of how the games fell we only really needed to win or last match, at home, in front of our great support, to stay up - which we did (even though we had to do it the Bolton way and make it difficult for ourselves).

We were the favourities to go down at the start of the season - we were under embargo, had warring co-owners and massive debts thanks to Holdsworth and his BluMarble loan.  We built the team on loans and out of contract players that no other teams seem to want.

A massive amount as been achieved both on and off the pitch.  Anderson deserves praise for us even still having a club to support - yet moonmen like Wanderlust believe he's robbing the club blind - and Parkinson lauded that he kept us up with what he was given - yet simpletons like Martin (anybody seen much of him since we won - because as sure as eggs are eggs he would have been all over this forum telling us what he thinks of Parkinson if we hadn't!) moans and is foul mouthed because he's not got us playing like Brazil!

Yes, maybe he should have been more positive and bolder at times but he's achieved a minor miracle considering what challenges he's had to face this season (and last).

He deserves a medal not a bullet!

Sluffy wrote:
He deserves a medal not a bullet!

You're wrong of course, tell me this, how has Parkinson kept us up? we'd have been relegated weeks if not months ago but for other teams around us being equally shit if not shitter, Parkinson has got lucky in that Burton and Barnsley have been shooting themselves in the foot, let's not give Parkinson any credit for them two being shitter than we have eh.

MartinBWFC wrote:

Sluffy wrote:
He deserves a medal not a bullet!

You're wrong of course, tell me this, how has Parkinson kept us up? we'd have been relegated weeks if not months ago but for other teams around us being equally shit if not shitter, Parkinson has got lucky in that Burton and Barnsley have been shooting themselves in the foot, let's not give Parkinson any credit for them two being shitter than we have eh.

Are you for real?

We had the same conversation last week too - and I'm not the only one who thinks you're talking out your arse!

Bwfc1958 wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

MartinBWFC wrote:He's got out of jail free if we manage to stay up, and had it not been for the teams in and around us blowing hot and cold we'd have been relegated several weeks ago, so in reality if we stay up it will be thanks to two more sides being worse than we've been, Parkinson gets no credit in mine and a lot of others eyes.

Eh???

Isn't that how relegation works, the worse teams get relegated and the teams that aren't the worst stay up?

Exactly. I think Parky must have shagged Martin's wife or something. Never heard owt like it.

I suspect Parky will still be our manager come August, people quickly forget the shitfests against Birmingham, Burton etc when you stay up in such spectacular style.

Personally I'd get rid of Parky, because I don't believe we will progress under him. He is far too cautious, we got away with it this year, but I can't believe the Championship will be as crap next season.

Sluffy wrote:
Are you for real?

We had the same conversation last week too - and I'm not the only one who thinks you're talking out your arse.

You're being blinded by one great performance, you slag Coyle off, but heap praise on a piss poor manager, you just don't know very much about football if you think Parkinson deserves anything other than the sack.

Personally im 50 50 on whether I want him to stay or go. He’s done a fantastic job getting us out of league one and keeping us up. His style is way too conservative to compete at this level, but I feel he’s been forced to play a certain way, he has one of the poorest squads in the league so has had to go into every game set up to contain the opposition and hope to nick a goal.

I’d like to see him with a bit of cash behind him, to replace Madine and add a touch of quality.