Eddie Davies.

Sluffy wrote:Its easy for people to say things like why didn't Davies back Allardyce that Christmas when we were third in the league, or why doesn't he buy Rhodes - because if we don't go up we could always sell him and get our money back, etc - I think the truth is more likely to be that Davies needs to go to his backers and get their approval rather than him having the final word on such matters.

That issue needs to be kept totally separate and dealt with accordingly. To request funding a manager has to go through the appropriate internal channels.
If by going through those channels the managers request in considered acceptable only then and if required would the chairman consider approaching Eddie for additional funding.
That process did not happen as no internal approval was given so no approach to Eddie was ever considered or made.

If Edie had been asked for funding for that purpose and he had an amount to add to what was available or known to be due available from whatever sources would things have turned out differently ? Do those involved now regret events back them. I doubt they would ever own up to them or even consider telling you the truth.
Back to waterboarding that silk suited salesman chairman of the year

Time for bed said Zebedy

All interesting but to the likes of us (me anyway, you might be a great deal more informed) just idle academic speculation.

It's fairly clear that Davies as in the past financed deals outside the clubs internal structure - Anelka seemed to be an example of such if all is to be believed.

Nixon seemed to be suggesting at one point that Rhodes could possibly have been another.

It does look for now though that the transfer well - both internal and external - seems to be empty.

I guess we will get loanees in yet though, so I guess Freedman will have to strengthen us that way until January and hopefully by then we manage to find a bit of a transfer budget from somewhere.

Sleep well!

BoltonTillIDie wrote:

terenceanne wrote:Don't worry about it.....Eddie passed away five years ago......

Meanwhile we will just default on that money.  It's personal money not owed to a bank as I understand it.  Like if you or I gave money to the club out of our pockets. Just a bad investment....

Eddie was at the statue unveiling.

That wasn't Eddie....it was a paid imposter.

When was the last time Eddie had something to say about his club?

When he demanded that Coyle be sacked?

terenceanne wrote:
When was the last time Eddie had something to say about his club?

Why do you care if Eddie keeps his involvement behind the scenes?

Hipster_Nebula wrote:When he demanded that Coyle be sacked?

Yep, he over-ruled Gartside who was prepared to give Coyle one more chance but with a co-manager, which as we know from previous experience just doesn't work!!!

The truth is that Gartside asked Coyle to get rid of Sandy Stewart but he wouldn't, so Davies stepped in and sacked them both.

Not many people know that.

Natasha Whittam wrote:The truth is that Gartside asked Coyle to get rid of Sandy Stewart but he wouldn't, so Davies stepped in and sacked them both.

Not many people know that.

I know the truth as I get my information from one of the Board directors, and that was an absolute no-truth.

Fact was Gartside was wanting to create a dual management with Coyle and Sammy Lee. Eddie first of all didn't want dual managment after what happened with McFarland and Todd and, secondly, basically Eddie didn't want Sammy Lee near the management of the 1st Team. Therefore Eddie took the unusual step and over-ruled Gartside and wanted the First team to have a fresh start with manager and backroom staff. All I will say is that Gartside and Eddie didn't speak for a few weeks after and almost resulted in Gartside resigning (shame he didn't)!

Well I got my info from the horses mouth.

bwfc71 wrote:I know the truth as I get my information from one of the Board directors, and that was an absolute no-truth.

Fact was Gartside was wanting to create a dual management with Coyle and Sammy Lee. Eddie first of all didn't want dual managment after what happened with McFarland and Todd and, secondly, basically Eddie didn't want Sammy Lee near the management of the 1st Team.  Therefore Eddie took the unusual step and over-ruled Gartside and wanted the First team to have a fresh start with manager and backroom staff.  All I will say is that Gartside and Eddie didn't speak for a few weeks after and almost resulted in Gartside resigning (shame he didn't)!

Sounds like Eddie knows what he's doing, good to hear.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Well I got my info from the horses mouth.

Often wondered what happened to Shergar!

Or was it Mr Ed!!!

(if you are old enough to remember that comedy series)

Natasha Whittam wrote:Well I got my info from the horses mouth.

Was it called Shergartside?

Natasha Whittam wrote:The truth is that Gartside asked Coyle to get rid of Sandy Stewart but he wouldn't, so Davies stepped in and sacked them both.

Not many people know that.

He sacked Gartside?

"He's fucking turned up again!" < the receptionist as he walks in every morning.

What a nightmare scenario that is, Coyle paired up with the return of Sammy Lee. Just goes to show how clueless Gartside really is. Nice to know Eddie obviously isn't as thick as I was assuming him to be(on football matters anyway, he's obviously quite cute as far as finance is concerned).

Gartside won't resign because he has it too easy, he's on a huge wage and gets no stick.

How many years has he been sending the club into a decline ?

The club needs fresh blood starting from the top IMO .

Let's simplfy the situation ..... if you or I bought the club would we put up with all the nonsense going back ten years now at least.

Answer...of course not ....like any business owner you demand results for your staff.  When underperforming you get rid..... the idea is for a business to be successful.  If you as the owner can't make it happen...you're in the wrong business.

I think we've seen enough football over the years to know sacking a manager every time you go on a bad run is probably not the best idea.

so we sack dougie, lets just say we hire "joe blogs," we get a nice bounce 4 wins in a row! but, oh no, we then get 1 point from 12.

Sack him?

scottjames30 wrote:Gartside won't resign because he has it too easy, he's on a huge wage and gets no stick.

How many years has he been sending the club into a decline ?

The club needs fresh blood starting from the top IMO .

I still don't know what you expect to change if Gartside goes?

Like many fans you just want somebody to blame when things aren't going well and you've landed on Gartside.

bwfc1874 wrote:

scottjames30 wrote:Gartside won't resign because he has it too easy, he's on a huge wage and gets no stick.

How many years has he been sending the club into a decline ?

The club needs fresh blood starting from the top IMO .

I still don't know what you expect to change if Gartside goes?

Like many fans you just want somebody to blame when things aren't going well and you've landed on Gartside.

We'll get new ideas for a start, new passion, new everything.

He might hire a decent Manager for a start, the fans might respect the club again if he goes, look at all the debt we're in ,is he not to blame for that like ?

scottjames30 wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

scottjames30 wrote:Gartside won't resign because he has it too easy, he's on a huge wage and gets no stick.

How many years has he been sending the club into a decline ?

The club needs fresh blood starting from the top IMO .

I still don't know what you expect to change if Gartside goes?

Like many fans you just want somebody to blame when things aren't going well and you've landed on Gartside.

We'll get new ideas for a start, new passion, new everything.

He might hire a decent Manager for a start, the fans might respect the club again if he goes, look at all the debt we're in ,is he not to blame for that like ?

We have a decent manager, 4 games (league) doesn't suddenly make him a bad manager.

Were he to go his replacement won't be a fan, it will be a businessman, and what would you expect new 'passion' to bring? 

I respect the club even if you don't, don't try and speak for every fan.

I don't know enough about the debt to apportion blame (and neither do you).

It could make a difference, but I seriously doubt it. As I've said, nobody has a clue what happens behind the scenes, but I do know it could be a fuck of a lot worse - Peter Pannu at Birmingham, any of the Venky's, the Leeds owners.