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Thank God For The Tories

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81Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 13:28

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

The Tories see us public sector workers as easy targets to fleece. It's been the same for years, no pay rises or just 1% over the last 5-6 years and as Lusty says will continue for years to come.

I'm at the top of my pay band so in real terms i get paid less than i did 5 years ago  Crying or Very sad

82Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 13:35

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Didn't Hammond say that the £2 billion p.a. that the rise in Class 4 insurance would generate would be specifically used to plug the gap in social care funding?

If so, does the U turn mean that his pledge for social care funding is also going down the pan?

83Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 14:51

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Norpig wrote:The Tories see us public sector workers as easy targets to fleece. It's been the same for years, no pay rises or just 1% over the last 5-6 years and as Lusty says will continue for years to come.

I'm at the top of my pay band so in real terms i get paid less than i did 5 years ago  Crying or Very sad

My commiserations. As a former public sector worker with two sons now working in the public sector I know exactly what you mean.

84Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 15:30

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

We've recently been informed of a change in our duties.
As well as cutting the grass/bushes/hedges,tree lopping and shredding,we now have to empty the litter bins,if any are in situ,as there certainly are on the retail sites,and pick up litter.
No extra pay. No extra hours.
I've no idea what's happened to the people who usually do these jobs.
I've also heard a rumour that we're moving into 'car park management'. Sounds ominous.
The fact is we've been taken over by a much larger company,and they seem to want to cram everything under one roof.

85Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 15:47

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

wanderlust wrote:Looks like the economic forecasts for Brexit are starting to come true i.e. inflation and prices will rise whilst wages freeze leading to a high employment low income society.

Embarrassing post.

Inflation was rising before Brexit.

Prices were rising before brexit.

There was a pay freeze before the term 'Brexit' had been invented.

You really have no idea what's going on in the real world. I bet you blame your erection problems on Brexit.

86Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 16:17

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:
wanderlust wrote:Looks like the economic forecasts for Brexit are starting to come true i.e. inflation and prices will rise whilst wages freeze leading to a high employment low income society.

I bet you blame your erection problems on Brexit.
Not if we have a hard Brexit...

87Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 16:37

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Spot on that.

88Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 16:51

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

This is amusing.  

Tory cat fight with Heseltine amongst others wading in to slag off Hammond and May.

All is not well in paradise apparently and we haven't even set sail yet.

89Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 16:54

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Heseltine is the only Tory i have ever had any time for

90Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 16:56

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

This site is full of bitter Labour followers.

Get over it. The Tories are doing a fine job in difficult circumstances.

91Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 16:57

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Don't know about doing a fine job but they certainly are responsible for the difficult circumstances.

92Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 16:58

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

xmiles wrote:Don't know about doing a fine job but they certainly are responsible for the difficult circumstances.

They have been cleaning up the Labour mess for years now.

93Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 17:00

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Natasha Whittam wrote:
xmiles wrote:Don't know about doing a fine job but they certainly are responsible for the difficult circumstances.

They have been cleaning up the Labour mess for years now.

So how many years until they finish? They have been blaming Labour for 7 years now.

94Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 17:04

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

xmiles wrote:

So how many years until they finish? They have been blaming Labour for 7 years now.

At least another 7, maybe 8.

95Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Wed Mar 15 2017, 17:06

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Natasha Whittam wrote:
xmiles wrote:

So how many years until they finish? They have been blaming Labour for 7 years now.

At least another 7, maybe 8.


That I can believe. Laughing

96Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Thu Mar 16 2017, 09:08

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Another example of the Tories approach to honesty:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39289195

£70,000 is a drop in the ocean to a party funded by crooked millionaires and foreign nationals.

97Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Thu Mar 16 2017, 09:36

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:The Tories are doing a fine job in difficult circumstances.

But they've achieved nothing as far as anyone can tell. OK I accept that they have maintained a strong media profile in the face of weak opposition but as far as actually "doing a job" goes they just haven't turned up or delivered on any of they measures they themselves targeted.

Under normal circumstances a party that achieves nothing and has an unelected leader with no mandate from the country would be easy meat for the opposition but these aren't normal circumstances and there is no opposition.

Maybe that's why they're doing nothing? If they aren't too controversial everyone will assume they's doing a good job and it will serve to maintain the status quo?

Meanwhile they have failed to deliver all but one of their manifesto pledges:

  • Extension of the right-to-buy scheme to housing association tenants in England
  • Plans to build 200,000 starter homes
  • Ensuring all people who work 30 hours per week on the minimum wage pay no income tax
  • Doubling free childcare allowance for three and four-year-olds to 30 hours
  • Increasing the inheritance tax threshold on family homes to £1m by 2017
  • No above-inflation rises in rail fares until 2020
  • An extra £8bn a year for the NHS by 2020
  • Opening 500 more free schools


None of this has even started although in April the inheritance tax threshhold will rise to £500k - half of what they promised to get elected.

The one pledge they did deliver? The EU referendum. The rest just looks like a pack of lies.

98Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Thu Mar 16 2017, 09:43

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

In response to xmiles' post above:

Is anyone really surprised that politicians continue to lie and cheat? 

The worst thing is that the Tories refused to provide relevant documentation/information to The Electoral Commission, so that a court order had to be sought (!!), which is why the investigation took so long to complete.

And now that they have been found guilty and the truth is out, they continue to say that they have complied fully with the Electoral Commission when it has been proved that that's completely untrue! For God's sake!

There is no honesty, decency and trust in politics and politicians. They are able to look straight into a camera and tell bare-faced lies without blinking.

And don't get me started on the House of Lords!!

It seems to me that there is only one party with principles. You'd be wrong if you are guessing Lab, Lib Dem or Ukip!

99Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Thu Mar 16 2017, 10:18

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

It's easy to have "principles" when not in power as they are never tested in the face of economic management so whilst I applaud the Greens for their panoply of causes celebres their case remains noble but unproven.

What would be an improvement is some transparency from those in power, so if they make promises in order to get elected and they don't deliver they should keep the public updated as to why they haven't or won't deliver. It may well be for a logical reason so they really shouldn't have anything to hide. Like what's happening about the funding for social care now they've backtracked on raising Class 4 for example - have they clarified that yet? I think everyone suspects that they are going to do another U turn from Hammond's budget but for now they seem to be keeping very quiet about it - as they are about their manifesto pledges.

100Thank God For The Tories - Page 5 Empty Re: Thank God For The Tories Thu Mar 16 2017, 10:34

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

I don't agree with all the policies of the Greens but I do respect their honesty. They are certainly more honest than the others.

Nobody can come close to the Tories for bare faced dishonesty however. Over £250,000 of fiddled expenses are apparently just an "administrative error" according to their latest statement.

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