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Donald Trump for President of the USA

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Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Sluffy wrote:



I've no idea why he deleted his account

And therein lies the problem.......truly folks, it really does. Bigly.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

rammywhite wrote:
boltonbonce wrote:Out of his depth.

I think your right BB. Its slowly dawning in him that he's put himself in the position of proving to be a catastrophic failure and a public one at that. I bet he's bricking it!
I don't think he'll last 4 years
Have to agree, he did look lost.
There have been inept presidents in the past, (apparently), and they are shored up by their administration, and wives in some cases. (can't remember which one in particular I read about).
The problem with this 'support' is that non-elected people start making decisions for the country, with knock-on effects for the rest of us.

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

gloswhite wrote:
There have been inept presidents in the past, (apparently), and they are shored up by their administration, and wives in some cases. (can't remember which one in particular I read about).
The problem with this 'support' is that non-elected people start making decisions for the country, with knock-on effects for the rest of us.

Like Theresa May for example.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Nothing like Theresa May. She was elected by her government, which was elected by the country.

whatsgoingon

whatsgoingon
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

gloswhite wrote:
rammywhite wrote:
boltonbonce wrote:Out of his depth.

I think your right BB. Its slowly dawning in him that he's put himself in the position of proving to be a catastrophic failure and a public one at that. I bet he's bricking it!
I don't think he'll last 4 years
Have to agree, he did look lost.
There have been inept presidents in the past, (apparently), and they are shored up by their administration, and wives in some cases. (can't remember which one in particular I read about).
The problem with this 'support' is that non-elected people start making decisions for the country, with knock-on effects for the rest of us.
I think in most administrations many of the key decisions are taken if not by unelected bodies certainly with significant input from them.
Nobody will ever convince me that George Bush Jnr made all major policy decisions because he could barely string a sentence together to a large degree the President is a figurehead and many decisions come from people who make a huge effort to remain out of the public eye and therefore avoid the flack when decisions go tits up.

Regarding 74 my experience of him is similar to Glos's in that every point you make is met by demands to provide evidence in triplicate signed by your headmaster on anything to do with politics and I found him a bit of an over opinionated bleeding heart.
However I enjoyed interacting with him on non political matters and on football stuff, I just think he takes politics to seriously and isn't adept at accepting other people can have a point of view different to theirs without pushing them to back it up to the n'th degree.

I find sluffy to be fair and even with posters generally and haven't had any problems with him, despite his protestations to the contrary I do believe he is at least a little obsessed with the ST although many of the things he points out about them I agree with. Any obsession with the ST sluffy has is at least matched by breads obsession with sluffy, every time he posts on anything bread is in with digs and was responsible for the biggest agenda driven campaign on here when trying to get Scott and Boggers banned.

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

The Trump cabinet doesn't impress me at all.
Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 21 41c

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

gloswhite wrote:Nothing like Theresa May. She was elected by her government, which was elected by the country.

Well 36.9% of those who bothered to vote anyway. Although they actually voted for a Tory party led by Cameron and presumably endorsing his policies not May's current policies.

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

They were all over Gordon Brown. Set a date Theresa.

NickFazer

NickFazer
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

I agree May should go to the country and call off the appeal over Article 50.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

i thought that also. However, to get A50 registered, it would be easier to go to Parliament, assuming labour will honour Corbyns pledge not to oppose it.

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Assuming Corbyn speaks for the Labour party. However since he consistently voted against the party whip he presumably won't mind if most of his party ignore him.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

xmiles wrote:
gloswhite wrote:Nothing like Theresa May. She was elected by her government, which was elected by the country.

Well 36.9% of those who bothered to vote anyway. Although they actually voted for a Tory party led by Cameron and presumably endorsing his policies not May's current policies.
Two points:
1. Since when have we ever seen 100% turn out for any vote, anywhere.
2.  Her current' 'policies' have really been dictated by the referendum, in large part. (I believe her actual policies will probably be far more beneficial than Cameron's would have been).

Regards Corbyn, he may give his lot free rein, but I doubt it. As somebody said earlier, it would be political suicide. Politicians are greedy and selfish, but rarely stupid, when it comes to their own survival.

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

gloswhite wrote:
xmiles wrote:
gloswhite wrote:Nothing like Theresa May. She was elected by her government, which was elected by the country.

Well 36.9% of those who bothered to vote anyway. Although they actually voted for a Tory party led by Cameron and presumably endorsing his policies not May's current policies.
Two points:
1. Since when have we ever seen 100% turn out for any vote, anywhere.
2.  Her current' 'policies' have really been dictated by the referendum, in large part. (I believe her actual policies will probably be far more beneficial than Cameron's would have been).

Regards Corbyn, he may give his lot free rein, but I doubt it. As somebody said earlier, it would be political suicide. Politicians are greedy and selfish, but rarely stupid, when it comes to their own survival.

1. For the sake of complete accuracy, the turnout was only 66% so the Tories actually had less than one in four of the adult population vote for them
2. I understand your point but at least Trump was directly elected by a far larger percentage of the American electorate than any British Prime Minister in living memory.

As for Corbyn, I just think he is absolutely hopeless and a complete hypocrite.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Fair point. As for Corbyn, he's too parochial. For years he's bothered only with the policies he's interested in, and has never been able to see the bigger picture, and his current role has highlighted that tremendously, (in my opinion)

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Glos we are probably pretty much in the same area in our assessment of Corbyn. He is really far more interested in international matters and seldom has much to say about domestic matters such as the NHS where the Tories are vulnerable. I have no doubt he means well and is probably a very decent man but this does not necessarily equip you to lead a political party. Plus some of his policies are seriously impractical.

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Very interesting piece on The Young Turks channel.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

xmiles wrote:Glos we are probably pretty much in the same area in our assessment of Corbyn. He is really far more interested in international matters and seldom has much to say about domestic matters such as the NHS where the Tories are vulnerable. I have no doubt he means well and is probably a very decent man but this does not necessarily equip you to lead a political party. Plus some of his policies are seriously impractical.

How strange is that. I haven't shown too much interest in Corbyn and his personal politics, to be honest, but I genuinely felt that he was more interested in the working conditions of the girl in Tesco's, than anything international. hence my 'parochial' comment.
I worry about me sometimes, but more so as I can't see how I got that arse backwards.
Time for a lie down  Very Happy

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
xmiles wrote:Surely you mean no proof exists that there is a God.

There's no proof either way, which is my point.
Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 21 Fb_img12

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

So far (after two days) Trump has changed his mind (if he has one) on:

a) he's not going to repeal the 'catastrophe' of Obamacare. He's going to keep most of it,and

b) he's not going to appoint a special prosecutor to make sure that Hillary Clinton will end up in jail.

Next will be reneging on the promise to build the wall, keep Muslims out of America and abolish climate change legislation.

What a joke! What a tragedy for America.

That's what you get when you put a Shitehouse in the Whitehouse

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Surely the fact that he is reneging on his promises is a good thing for America!

Unlike here where the brexiteers are reneging on their promises (£350m for the NHS, etc) and it is a bad thing for us.

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