tax credits take 9

bwfc1874 wrote:

Showing how simple you are again. Nothing to do with people having kids they can't provide for, everything to do with workers being underpaid with nothing to fall back on in terms of government support.

Breadman wrote:Why are you lot arguing with Whittam?

You wouldn't argue with a goat or a lamp-post would you?

And their opinions are just as "real" and valid as Whittam's.

Pointless exercise.

Breadman wrote:Why are you lot arguing with Whittam?

You wouldn't argue with a goat or a lamp-post would you?

And their opinions are just as "real" and valid as Whittam's.

Pointless exercise.

y2johnny wrote:Like a wise man once said. I'd love to know what you really thought rather than your character.

y2johnny wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:Thought we might get a few for the Tories yesterday when they announced they were scrapping their tax credits cuts.

A government that listens to the people. Whatever next.

You think they deserve applause for being forced not to do something? Something they lied to you about during the election, how pathetic are you?

Had it not been for the campaign to stop them they'd have forced them through, luckily the publicity built by the rest of us stopped the cuts and made it political suicide for Osborne to force them through. Don't mistake this for compassion it's yet another example of how the Tories are too basic to have any real principles and are only swayed by public opinion.

Now that gets a

bwfc1874 wrote:They did this to help the low paid? How basic are you? Do you think it was Osbornes grand plan to propose tax cuts, get shot down and then pull them after?

And clearly you can force a government to do something, why do you think Osborne didn't push them through? It's because he wants the Torie leadership and knows he couldn't afford to take a battering - even from fellow Torie MPs who opposed them.

The fact that you were happy being lied to about the cuts, then happy they were going through and then happy they're not tells me you haven't a clue/don't give a shit. You'll go along with whatever Dave and George suggest regardless of what it actually means, get a grip and get an informed opinion you sheep.

karlypants wrote:The sooner the bloody Tories are out the better!!!

y2johnny wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:The bit I think will really surprise poeple are when the next round of cuts hits local councils. Some services already cut to the bone, and laudable though it is, ringfencing additional money for social care is brilliant, but leaves other services really really vulnerable.

Our bins are going every three weeks.  We recycle everything we can and it is still a struggle.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Yes, it's the governments fault that people keep having kids they can't afford.

karlypants wrote:

y2johnny wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:The bit I think will really surprise poeple are when the next round of cuts hits local councils. Some services already cut to the bone, and laudable though it is, ringfencing additional money for social care is brilliant, but leaves other services really really vulnerable.

Our bins are going every three weeks.  We recycle everything we can and it is still a struggle.

That's taking the piss Johnny! We struggle with a fortnightly bin service as it is!

I bet fly tipping is up in your area no doubt!

y2johnny wrote:

karlypants wrote:

y2johnny wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:The bit I think will really surprise poeple are when the next round of cuts hits local councils. Some services already cut to the bone, and laudable though it is, ringfencing additional money for social care is brilliant, but leaves other services really really vulnerable.

Our bins are going every three weeks.  We recycle everything we can and it is still a struggle.

That's taking the piss Johnny! We struggle with a fortnightly bin service as it is!

I bet fly tipping is up in your area no doubt!

Its jot yet but if they bring this in it will be like a shit tip round here.  (More so than normal )

karlypants wrote:
And what if my Mrs was expecting and I had just lost my job for example?

You truly are a fucking cock.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Up until her last post Nat was being serious and putting across views that many people genuinely hold unfortunately.

Faced with those views being questioned she's deflected to nonsense.

bwfc1874 wrote:No you've just stopped arguing about tax credits because you've nothing left to say and don't know how to counter the points you disagree with. 

So instead you've made some bullshit general point that helps you to simplify a very complicated issue into terms you understand. Absolutely everyone can see straight through it.