euro referendum 23rd June

bwfc1874 wrote:Amazes me when Tory voters are shocked by the way Cameron's ran his campaign my parents reaction was the same as Nat's, they've done the same in both general elections remember if Labour got voted in then Alex Salmond would take control of Westminster? They're seemingly incapable of running an honest campaign, fear is what they rely on.

Where did I say I was shocked?

By the way, I'm meeting your parents for lunch tomorrow. They think I could be the daughter they always wanted.

Are you coming on to me?

bwfc1874 wrote:Are you coming on to me?

No, informing you to pack your bags and move out. Your political leanings scare your parents.

wanderlust wrote:Ignoring all the claims and counterclaims from two very negative campaigns, I still can't see any advantages of leaving. I mean what would we gain?

All I hear is that if we leave, we'll be able to renegotiate the deals we have now and maybe in a few years time we'll get what we currently have.

We've systematically dismantled our own industries so we'll always be dependent on imports so seriously, does anyone know what we have to gain by leaving?

Still not had an answer to this but Truss has proven the bit about deal negotiations is correct. And it’s taken 4 years to get one of the 40 trade deals we had in place so does that mean it will be 160 years to get back to where we were in 2016?
Personally I don’t think we ever will unless we change government to on that has international credibility but our economy will be so f***** by the time the people have a chance to dump them we’ll have nothing left to negotiate with.

Guest wrote:

The economic arguments for leaving the EU have proven weak to non-existent. I don't mean the constant scare stories from number 10, but a multitude of evidence from the IFS, OEDC, IMF etc. Plus the fact Europe would want to deter other members from filling your lead by making out deal as shit as possible.

Why is Merkel a Nazi?

Why don't you like the channel tunnel?

Karly - I see you never answered my questions here. One more though.

Now you see the lies you were fed over Brexit, and reality sets in do you see things at all differently?

As if mere facts are going to make karly change his mind about brexit.

It’s the unwillingness to even discuss it that gets to me. If you have extreme views like this but they’re so fragile you can’t explain them then maybe you should rethink them all together.

The thing is that even though it’s been proven beyond doubt that the British people were lied to - and that the lies have been compounded by more lies ever since - some folk just won’t have it that they’ve been taken for mugs.

Admitting you’ve made a mistake is hard but it’s much harder to admit you’ve been used as a pawn in somebody else’s game.

I was going to use a video of Johnson - perhaps the biggest sucker - being caught out lying to illustrate the point but there are so many to choose from...

wanderlust wrote:The thing is that even though it’s been proven beyond doubt that the British people were lied to - and that the lies have been compounded by more lies ever since - some folk just won’t have it that they’ve been taken for mugs.

Admitting you’ve made a mistake is hard but it’s much harder to admit you’ve been used as a pawn in somebody else’s game.

I was going to use a video of Johnson - perhaps the biggest sucker - being caught out lying to illustrate the point but there are so many to choose from...

I wonder who that could possibly be!?



About time you let it go and moved on with your life.

I told you this three years ago but still it obviously continues to eat you up inside.

Being bitter and vindictive on here won't change a single thing.

Caveat emptor.

Yaaaaaawwwwwnnnn.......

Hahaha!!!

You're too late mate - this is your original post - including your big fat lie until you changed it!!!

wanderlust wrote:Well seeing as I voted to remain and we were having a conversation about leaver regret I guess you have lost the plot and have regressed to the stuck record you assume is dialogue of some description. Aka wtf are you on about?
Actually do me a favour and don’t bother replying.

This is what you posted on ww -

Posted March 13, 2019


I, like half the Leave voters voted to Leave the EU but to stay in the Single Market and Customs Union which is what all the Leave campaign leaders promised during the referendum campaign. Norway and Switzerland etc
 
Unfortunately they also promised to leave the SM and CU which is why Brexit is such a mess and all the sticking points and concerns are about.
Ask bad questions and you get bad answers which is why the referendum was a f******* joke as the majority of people voted for two opposing things and nobody knows what Brexit is.
May of course was a fervent Remainer and warned us all of the dangers of leaving the EU, and right now, given a choice I'd opt for a second referendum and vote Remain.
And as for the trillion pounds that has already been taken out of the financial sector and moved to Europe, and the rafts of foreign employers notably in automotive that are pulling out all I can say is Typical Bloody foreigners! Going over there and taking our jobs with them.

And don't even try to pretend it isn't you - this is what you posted to Norpig on there under the same user name -

Posted September 25, 2019

Kinell Pig - I've just had my "permanent" ban rescinded and now you come on here? Do I need to change my deodorant?
Need your support over there in my efforts to see if two permanent bans are possible. Ross McWhirter's pen is twitching.

You're just a liar and an incredibly bitter person who can't stand to be wrong.

I've got you absolutely nailed and you utterly detest me for it.

Too bad.

Face up to what you've done - we all make mistakes - and simply move on.

It really isn't a hard thing to do - for most of us anyway - it's you who has the problem if you can't - no matter how much you try and blame me!

Sluffy wrote:Hahaha!!!

You're too late mate - this is your original post - including your big fat lie until you changed it!!!



This is what you posted on ww -

Posted March 13, 2019


I, like half the Leave voters voted to Leave the EU but to stay in the Single Market and Customs Union which is what all the Leave campaign leaders promised during the referendum campaign. Norway and Switzerland etc
 
Unfortunately they also promised to leave the SM and CU which is why Brexit is such a mess and all the sticking points and concerns are about.
Ask bad questions and you get bad answers which is why the referendum was a f******* joke as the majority of people voted for two opposing things and nobody knows what Brexit is.
May of course was a fervent Remainer and warned us all of the dangers of leaving the EU, and right now, given a choice I'd opt for a second referendum and vote Remain.
And as for the trillion pounds that has already been taken out of the financial sector and moved to Europe, and the rafts of foreign employers notably in automotive that are pulling out all I can say is Typical Bloody foreigners! Going over there and taking our jobs with them.

And don't even try to pretend it isn't you - this is what you posted to Norpig on there under the same user name -

Posted September 25, 2019

Kinell Pig - I've just had my "permanent" ban rescinded and now you come on here? Do I need to change my deodorant?
Need your support over there in my efforts to see if two permanent bans are possible. Ross McWhirter's pen is twitching.

You're just a liar and an incredibly bitter person who can't stand to be wrong.

I've got you absolutely nailed and you utterly detest me for it.

Too bad.

Face up to what you've done - we all make mistakes - and simply move on.

It really isn't a hard thing to do - for most of us anyway - it's you who has the problem if you can't - no matter how much you try and blame me!

Since you are so keen on people admitting their mistakes when are you going to admit that you have made a mistake? You have accused me of posting on here under two identities. This is simply not true. I have asked you what evidence you have to support this but you have never provided any. You haven't even told me what my other identity is supposed to be.

xmiles wrote:Since you are so keen on people admitting their mistakes when are you going to admit that you have made a mistake? You have accused me of posting on here under two identities. This is simply not true. I have asked you what evidence you have to support this but you have never provided any. You haven't even told me what my other identity is supposed to be.

Oh do jog on.

I've held back as long as I could but you keep wanting to make this an issue.

This account is - and always has been - a fake and one used by another regular poster on here - as their 'serious' account so to speak.

It's never caused me or anyone else a problem until the last few months and that's why I've always turned a blind eye to it.

If you (in which ever guise you want to be) don't want to post on here any more then don't - it's that simple.

Now post or don't - the cat's out of the bag now - it's up to you.

I'm past caring and certainly won't be playing your games from now on.

Sluffy wrote:Hahaha!!!

You're too late mate - this is your original post - including your big fat lie until you changed it!!!



This is what you posted on ww -

Posted March 13, 2019


I, like half the Leave voters voted to Leave the EU but to stay in the Single Market and Customs Union which is what all the Leave campaign leaders promised during the referendum campaign. Norway and Switzerland etc
 
Unfortunately they also promised to leave the SM and CU which is why Brexit is such a mess and all the sticking points and concerns are about.
Ask bad questions and you get bad answers which is why the referendum was a f******* joke as the majority of people voted for two opposing things and nobody knows what Brexit is.
May of course was a fervent Remainer and warned us all of the dangers of leaving the EU, and right now, given a choice I'd opt for a second referendum and vote Remain.
And as for the trillion pounds that has already been taken out of the financial sector and moved to Europe, and the rafts of foreign employers notably in automotive that are pulling out all I can say is Typical Bloody foreigners! Going over there and taking our jobs with them.

And don't even try to pretend it isn't you - this is what you posted to Norpig on there under the same user name -

Posted September 25, 2019

Kinell Pig - I've just had my "permanent" ban rescinded and now you come on here? Do I need to change my deodorant?
Need your support over there in my efforts to see if two permanent bans are possible. Ross McWhirter's pen is twitching.

You're just a liar and an incredibly bitter person who can't stand to be wrong.

I've got you absolutely nailed and you utterly detest me for it.

Too bad.

Face up to what you've done - we all make mistakes - and simply move on.

It really isn't a hard thing to do - for most of us anyway - it's you who has the problem if you can't - no matter how much you try and blame me!

I think you’ll find that I - wanderlust who hasn’t posted on WW for over 10 years incase you haven’t noticed - have always said that I’m a remainer. And if you bothered to read the posts I’ve written on here you wouldn’t have reason to doubt it. 
So if you’re so keen on playing Mrs Marple show us a single post on this website written by me that says otherwise. Or just  like a good little amateur detective.
Better still, answer the Quent question, spill the beans on Nat’s minge or go and waste somebody else’s time passing judgment on the veracity of what they write.

I don’t believe for a second that you ever had a senior management role as you claim but I don’t waste my time worrying about it as I assume you’re bullshitting and get on with trying to enjoy a bit of friendly banter like most folk.

You’re like a stuck record so give it a rest for once.

wanderlust wrote:I think you’ll find that I - wanderlust who hasn’t posted on WW for over 10 years incase you haven’t noticed - have always said that I’m a remainer. And if you bothered to read the posts I’ve written on here you wouldn’t have reason to doubt it. 
So if you’re so keen on playing Mrs Marple show us a single post on this website written by me that says otherwise. Or just  like a good little amateur detective.
Better still, answer the Quent question, spill the beans on Nat’s minge or go and waste somebody else’s time passing judgment on the veracity of what they write.

I don’t believe for a second that you ever had a senior management role as you claim but I don’t waste my time worrying about it as I assume you’re bullshitting and get on with trying to enjoy a bit of friendly banter like most folk.

You’re like a stuck record so give it a rest for once.

Wow!!!

A grown man deliberately telling lies on an internet forum over fuck all - just to avoid saying he made a mistake!!!

Hahaha - that's so pathetic, it really is.

It's easy enough to prove who you are, Norpig messaged you and spoke to you under the Hoppy alias you were using.  Are you claiming Norpig was telling lies about you too then?

I really don't need to be Miss Marple (I assume that's who you meant to say anyway) or anyone else to know it was you.

Desperately sad that you've lowered yourself so much over this, it really is a massive hole you've dug for yourself now - and a complete loss of any credibility you had on here - all over what really - that you made a simple mistake/error of judgement and can't seem to admit to it?

I mean who gives a fuck about it anyway - apart from you of course.

Yawn....

Sluffy wrote:

Oh do jog on.

I've held back as long as I could but you keep wanting to make this an issue.

This account is - and always has been - a fake and one used by another regular poster on here - as their 'serious' account so to speak.

It's never caused me or anyone else a problem until the last few months and that's why I've always turned a blind eye to it.

If you (in which ever guise you want to be) don't want to post on here any more then don't - it's that simple.

Now post or don't - the cat's out of the bag now - it's up to you.

I'm past caring and certainly won't be playing your games from now on.

I have not posted on this forum under another identity. This is not a fake account.

Why do you think it is? Where is the evidence? Who am I supposed to be?

The truth is that you have made a mistake but you won't admit it.

Sluffy, you claimed mine was a fake account from my very first post, but never explained why you thought that, despite my asking you.

Come on Sluffy time to either name and shame or admit you're wrong anout xmiles, we're all waiting........

Clearly Xmiles is not a 'fake' poster, the only reason that's being suggested is because of disagreements with Sluffy. Nonsense like this needs to stop.