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Corbyn re-elected

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41Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:05

whatsgoingon

whatsgoingon
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

bwfc1874 wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:Seriously depressing watching question time last night. Yes it was in Boston, but the tone of the immigration debate has changed. Whereas before we saw politicians making the case for immigration (for which there is a strong one) it now seems to be regarded as political suicide to do so, the audience went wild at any suggestion that wasn't in line with - 'immigrants are to blame for all of our problems'.

Fair play to Corbyn for having principles and sticking to them, I fear the narrative in this country has already swung too far to the right though. With UKIP paling into insignificance the Tories could end up picking up those voters who see being tough on immigration the be all and end all.

So you're right and everyone else is wrong?

I think there are downsides but immigration has a net benefit to this country. Governments should do a lot more to help ease the burden of high immigration.

So yes I'm right.
That is absolutely impossible to quantify, the amount of variables associated to it in terms of costs and benefits has so many second, third tier factors involved make it so.
It is easy to cherry pick facts and statistics to suit an argument, as per the famous quote "there are lies damned lies and statistics".
So no you are not "right" you just choose to select different "facts" to suit your argument than those people with opposing views choose to suit theirs.

42Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:06

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Has immigration made Bolton into a better town to live in?

43Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:06

Bollotom2014

Bollotom2014
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

I do think that most people confuse "Immigrant" with "Asylum Seeker" and further "Genuine asylum seeker" who deserves help and "Economic migrants" who use false papers, or none, to get here in the hope of claiming benefits. It's a minefield in which pollies of all persuasions have to tread carefully in what they say.
This country has always accepted immigrants and long may it continue, but NOT the piss takers..

44Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:08

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Immigration does of course have its benefits. What doesn't though, is uncontrolled immigration, not just because of the jobs, but also because of the long-lasting pressure on services, such as  health, education, and policing.
I personally see nothing wrong with stemming the current flow, and managing the number of people who come into this country in future years, (if they have a job to come to). The UK has shown that it is an accepting and tolerant country, but common sense says that once the infrastructure of the UK is damaged of changed for the worse, then nobody benefits.

45Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:15

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

this country does need immigrants, even the UKIP man on QT last night said so, but they have to have a skill or be here for a specific reason or to fill a gap we can't fill ourselves

We should also be doing more to take in genuine asylum seekers, the panorama programme on Aleppo this week was shocking and we should be doing more to help these people

Corbyn is way of out touch with the man on the street i'm afraid and his views on unlimited immigration prove it

46Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:20

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Cajunboy wrote:Has immigration made Bolton into a better town to live in?
 good point cajun, i don't live there anymore but all my family and most of my friends still do and from what i hear the answer would have to be no

47Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:20

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Corbyn is one lying fuckwit, he said he didn't know who Ant and Dec was, how could anybody on Earth not know who Ant and Dec are?

Wouldn't trust him with a barge pole.

48Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:27

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

He does well not to know Ant & Dec.

49Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:35

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

1874 has just been ripped a new arsehole by several posters, they've made him look a right knob.

50Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:40

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Cajunboy wrote:Has immigration made Bolton into a better town to live in?
 I haven't lived in Bolton  for nearly forty years, but I grew up there,  went to school there and have fond memories of it.

I still visit and have friends who live there who I still see.

The whole nature of the town I grew up in has altered so much though.

We need immigrants though for many reasons, but only so many people can stand on a table before the legs collapse.

Therefore it has to be a controlled inflow of immigrants , to fill the jobs that need doing.

51Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:41

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Tash,

Why are you so seemingly obsessed with "ripping arseholes"?

Says a lot about you, that.

52Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:42

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Love Michael Palin.

53Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:45

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

boltonbonce wrote:Love Michael Palin.

Didn't know he was an immigrant.

54Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:46

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

boltonbonce wrote:Love Michael Palin.

Very Happy

55Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:48

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Bread2.0 wrote:Tash,

Why are you so seemingly obsessed with "ripping arseholes"?

Says a lot about you, that.

Why have you re-started your bullery campaign against me?

56Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:49

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

57Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:51

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

...and here's one for the Scott character.

(Sent with love, naturally.)

58Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:52

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Natasha Whittam wrote:
Bread2.0 wrote:Tash,

Why are you so seemingly obsessed with "ripping arseholes"?

Says a lot about you, that.

Why have you re-started your bullery campaign against me?

I wasn't aware that I had.

I'm genuinely concerned, that's all.

Freud had a lot to say about people who were obsessed with "private parts".

And none of it was positive....

59Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:53

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Bread2.0 wrote:...and here's one for the Scott character.

(Sent with love, naturally.)

Razz

60Corbyn re-elected - Page 3 Empty Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:58

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Cajunboy wrote:Has immigration made Bolton into a better town to live in?

Absolutely not.

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