Corbyn re-elected

whatsgoingon · 41 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:05

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bwfc1874 wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:Seriously depressing watching question time last night. Yes it was in Boston, but the tone of the immigration debate has changed. Whereas before we saw politicians making the case for immigration (for which there is a strong one) it now seems to be regarded as political suicide to do so, the audience went wild at any suggestion that wasn't in line with - 'immigrants are to blame for all of our problems'.

Fair play to Corbyn for having principles and sticking to them, I fear the narrative in this country has already swung too far to the right though. With UKIP paling into insignificance the Tories could end up picking up those voters who see being tough on immigration the be all and end all.

So you're right and everyone else is wrong?

I think there are downsides but immigration has a net benefit to this country. Governments should do a lot more to help ease the burden of high immigration.

So yes I'm right.

That is absolutely impossible to quantify, the amount of variables associated to it in terms of costs and benefits has so many second, third tier factors involved make it so.
It is easy to cherry pick facts and statistics to suit an argument, as per the famous quote "there are lies damned lies and statistics".
So no you are not "right" you just choose to select different "facts" to suit your argument than those people with opposing views choose to suit theirs.

Cajunboy · 42 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:06

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Has immigration made Bolton into a better town to live in?

Bollotom2014 · 43 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:06

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I do think that most people confuse "Immigrant" with "Asylum Seeker" and further "Genuine asylum seeker" who deserves help and "Economic migrants" who use false papers, or none, to get here in the hope of claiming benefits. It's a minefield in which pollies of all persuasions have to tread carefully in what they say.
This country has always accepted immigrants and long may it continue, but NOT the piss takers..

gloswhite · 44 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:08

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Immigration does of course have its benefits. What doesn't though, is uncontrolled immigration, not just because of the jobs, but also because of the long-lasting pressure on services, such as health, education, and policing.
I personally see nothing wrong with stemming the current flow, and managing the number of people who come into this country in future years, (if they have a job to come to). The UK has shown that it is an accepting and tolerant country, but common sense says that once the infrastructure of the UK is damaged of changed for the worse, then nobody benefits.

Norpig · 45 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:15

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this country does need immigrants, even the UKIP man on QT last night said so, but they have to have a skill or be here for a specific reason or to fill a gap we can't fill ourselves

We should also be doing more to take in genuine asylum seekers, the panorama programme on Aleppo this week was shocking and we should be doing more to help these people

Corbyn is way of out touch with the man on the street i'm afraid and his views on unlimited immigration prove it

Norpig · 46 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:20

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Cajunboy wrote:Has immigration made Bolton into a better town to live in?

good point cajun, i don't live there anymore but all my family and most of my friends still do and from what i hear the answer would have to be no

scottjames30 · 47 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:20

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Corbyn is one lying fuckwit, he said he didn't know who Ant and Dec was, how could anybody on Earth not know who Ant and Dec are?

Wouldn't trust him with a barge pole.

boltonbonce · 48 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:27

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He does well not to know Ant & Dec.

Natasha Whittam · 49 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:35

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1874 has just been ripped a new arsehole by several posters, they've made him look a right knob.

Cajunboy · 50 Re: Corbyn re-elected Fri Sep 30 2016, 15:40