Ken Anderson - update.

y2johnny wrote:Because i talked common sense

Natasha Whittam wrote:

y2johnny wrote:Because i talked common sense

More than i ever do

I know cocker

Here is the update.

Side note.  They cant even do a fucking email address right.

ACV Update


"BWFCST would like to thank all parties in attendance at the Bolton Council ACV review today. A fair and reasonable process was undertaken, allowing all taking part the opportunity to hear presentations from the other parties. We now await the Reviewing Officers decision in due course.
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Election Update

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Natasha Whittam wrote:You need to clear your browsing history.

I can't flush my cache. It's too big.

boltonbonce wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:You need to clear your browsing history.

I can't flush my cache. It's too big.

A bit like that stool.

y2johnny wrote:
Rich thai business man.

Wants to buy a football club.

There are two options.

Both are struggling in the second tier of english football.  So not much to differentiate.

Apart from....

Club a) he can buy straight away and inject money into in the hope of retaining champipnship status.

Club b) he has to wait 6 months by which time the damage will be done.

Hmmmmmm
Hmmmmmm

Choices choices

Why would any investor have to wait six months? Buying out Anderson's shares could happen immediately. The ACV only applies if the investor subsequently wanted to sell off those particular assets at a later date - nothing to do with shareholding in the business.

boltonbonce wrote:Did you press Maureen regarding the reasons behind her taking a dump in the sink?

Perhaps it was a statement,or a cry for help.

I think you could have been a little more understanding.

Is Maureen related to AD by any chance?

And does she have chapped lips?

Bollotom2014 wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Did you press Maureen regarding the reasons behind her taking a dump in the sink?

Perhaps it was a statement,or a cry for help.

I think you could have been a little more understanding.

Is Maureen related to AD by any chance?

And does she have chapped lips?

That is a loaded question.

You're all focusing on the wrong bit. This isn't about shiting in the sink, it's about making your employees responsible for their actions.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

luckyPeterpiper wrote:Nat I think you know as well as I do that in this day and age a manager will almost never publicly criticise his players.

I agree, but my point is where has this got us in the last few years? What other business (and BWFC is a business) would continually praise underperforming employees?

This morning I went into the toilets to find someone had taken a dump in the sink. After a DNA analysis (there's a DNA lab on the floor above us) it was proven to have originated from Maureen in Accounts.

Now, did I stand up in the middle of the office and praise Maureen for taking a dump in the sink rather than the toilet 5 feet away? Of course not. Did I issue a press release to say the dumps at Whittam International were of superior quality? No I did not.

I fired her.

Take note Ken.

If the analogy has any relevance there's one thing we need to know. Did you call a press conference and release a statement to the media?

It's just that you may attract the wrong kind of applicant for future jobs if you make it widely known that your staff dump in the sink.

While the international break offers some respite from the rigours of league action for the majority of our squad, there are several of our players on duty for their countries this weekend.

Representing your nation at any level is what the majority of players aspire to and it’s also an honour for their parent club.

We of course will be looking out for Jake Turner and Josh Cullen who will be playing for England under 19s and the Republic of Ireland under 21s respectively and we wish them well.

Looking towards the younger element of the club, Luca Connell will also earn a cap at under 17 level, while Max Broughton recently captained England under 17s.

Credit must be given to our Academy and Development staff for the continual progress they are making which will ultimately benefit the first team going forward.

Recently, Jeff King made his league debut for the club, after earlier playing in the Carabao Cup against West Ham alongside fellow young professional Jack Earing.

Alex Perry, Ryan White and Harry Brockbank have also trained with the first squad in recent weeks. The manager sees the players train on a regular basis and has no hesitation in including each of them into both his training sessions and first team squad selection.

I'm optimistic that this small group of development players will continue to work hard and push hard to earn first team involvement as the season progresses.

Work has also commenced on the indoor dome over at our Lostock training ground, which will not only benefit all the age groups of our Academy but will also provide opportunities for our local community. We look forward to updating you on the progress of this over the coming weeks.

A number of our players who have been out injured in recent weeks are making steady progress and should be in contention for inclusion in the first team squad when they return to action against Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday 14 October. Hopefully, our squad will be at full strength for what will be the first time this season. A tremendous amount of work has been put in by our Medical Team, which is led by Matt Barrass, to rehabilitate those players whose season has been curtailed by injury.

Finally, I’d like to note that having seen the recent Supporters’ Direct statement neither the club nor l will be making any further comments until the outcome of the ACV hearing is known. However, I do wish to point out there being a number of inaccuracies and out of date information referred to in the statement and l have already made my position about the Supporters’ Trust clear in earlier notes. For the sake of clarity, I feel it important to reiterate that the sale of club assets and loans secured against club assets occurred prior to my involvement with the club.

Unfortunately, it appears to me that a number of people who are or have been involved in both of these organisations enjoy commenting generally on club matters that they have little or no knowledge of, as has clearly been seen in various comments made by the Trust over the last few months.

I do wonder sometimes why they don’t take the time to check the facts with the club or myself before making inaccurate statements.

All l can tell you is that since l have been involved with the club, the Trust has done very little in assisting the club in any shape or form.

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Another slap in the face for the ST

Norpig wrote:Another slap in the face for the ST

More like limp-wristed mud slinging from Toadface.

BTW has the ST invested more in BWFC than Anderson?

Serious question.

i very much doubt it Lusty,the ST have spoonsored a couple of players and that it as far as i know.

Why the sudden dislike of our glorious leader? I don't remember you being this vociferous about him until fairly recently.

Norpig wrote:i very much doubt it Lusty,the ST have spoonsored a couple of players and that it as far as i know.

Why the sudden dislike of our glorious leader? I don't remember you being this vociferous about him until fairly recently.

I don't trust him Norpig. Everything he does looks like he's stripping the club - which he bought for £1 - of all the assets. At the same time he's working hard on a media profile which is the perfect distraction from what's going on.

And I'm guessing that the ST sponsoring a couple of players is more than the £1 Anderson has put in to the kitty.

Because as far as I am aware that's all he's invested although I'd be interested to find out if he's risked any more than a quid.

I know he put in some money to cover cashflow at one stage but he took it back at the earliest opportunity.

I also know he secured Deano's shares without spending any of his own money.

I may be wrong but the club's assets were valued at around £40 million when he took over (bargain for a quid!) and rather than invest money into the club Anderson has used those assets to secure loans - including the BM loan - so the value of the club is shrinking rather than growing and the finances are based on credit rather than investment.

However we need the ground and we need players so I get very pissed off especially when Anderson seems more concerned about grabbing control rather than finding serious new money that would benefit the club and ensure we retain the assets we still have.

I've never trusted him,and said so,which seemed to upset certain people,so I now keep out of any business concerning Anderson or the ST.
His past antics shouldn't fill any of us with confidence,and it's going to take more than his upbeat programme notes to get me on side.

Same.

The bloke showed his true colours when he questioned the validity of the purely symbolic ACV. 
He's got us for next to nowt, invested nowt.
I stopped buying his spiel months ago.
Every club needs investment. Yes, we almost went under but he got us with a virtually clean balance sheet, yet won't invest a penny.  
Folk need to get wise to this all talk, no money routine he keeps peddling.

How do you know he didn't use his own money to buy Deano's shares Lusty? 

I know about his past but i feel we have to cut him some slack, if he can put the club back on an even keel and then sell us on to someone with real money and make some money himself then i have no problem with that. Without him we may not have had a club to be actually debating about right now.

Don't get me wrong - there is no evidence in the public domain which would clarify Anderson's intentions either way but I do know a fair bit about boardroom shenanigans and if I were in his position and intended to pull a fast one I'd go about it in exactly the way he has done.
Add that to his past record and there are ample reasons to be suspicious - which I am, but only time will tell if he's up to his old tricks or not.
The real problem for me is that he gives the impression that he's blocking/putting off potential investors for now and it puts the club in a very precarious financial position which will only worsen the more assets he pawns off. Perhaps there are no investors interested but given the way he's treated anyone who has shown any interest to date it's not surprising. Demanding £5 million just to see the books and slagging them off in the media sounds like a man with a lot to hide and no interest in investment.

It was £500,000 to see the books wasn't it?

I can't believe BM went to all that trouble to take Deano to court and then accept yet another loan deal, surely he must have paid back some of it and re-financed the rest?