Is this a good use of public money?

Let me pose a theoretical scenario.
Put yourselves in the position of Maddie's parents. Two years from now,she's found,living with a couple in wherever.
She's now a young woman. She's been loved,educated,and is seemingly very happy with her 'family'.
What would you do?
Would you thank heaven that she was alive,and leave her be,feeling that would be the best for her?
Or would you want her back,causing unknown consequences? For you,and the young woman.
As a parent,you'd always want the best for your child. But could you accept that leaving her be was the best option?
I wouldn't want that choice. But I hope she's alive,and they have the need to make it.

boltonbonce wrote:Let me pose a theoretical scenario.
Put yourselves in the position of Maddie's parents. Two years from now,she's found,living with a couple in wherever.
She's now a young woman. She's been loved,educated,and is seemingly very happy with her 'family'.
What would you do?
Would you thank heaven that she was alive,and leave her be,feeling that would be the best for her?
Or would you want her back,causing unknown consequences? For you,and the young woman.
As a parent,you'd always want the best for your child. But could you accept that leaving her be was the best option?
I wouldn't want that choice. But I hope she's alive,and they have the need to make it.

That's a real peach of a question. I think that if she were alive, then she would have some memories of her earlier life, which should be encouraged. Of course there is the likelihood that if she stayed where she was, and it was accepted, then you are laying down a precedent for kidnapping, and can you really see the parents agreeing to such a situation when their own flesh and blood was stolen from them ?
The best that could happen was that the child would be able to go back to her new parents now and then, from her genuine parents.

Tricky though isn't it. The mental effects could be serious for all parties.

I think we're all hoping for one thing. She's alive. Somewhere.

boltonbonce wrote:My mum and dad would never have left us alone in bed. In similar circumstances they'd have had a sitter. 
If none could be found,they simply wouldn't have gone out. You can't be complacent when kids are involved.
It's like texting and driving,it only takes a second for disaster to strike.
I'm sure Johnny would be much in agreement with my own parents on this.

Spot on

Yards away.  They was 55 metres away.  (Door to table they was sat.  Unfortunately their x-ray vision was on the fritz though so seeing through walls was their downfall then.  (And their super hearing was working fine but the drugs they gave the kids obviously kept them doped up and quiet........alledgedly)

Everyone answer this one simple question.

If they hadnt left them in the room on their own would we be having this conversation?

y2johnny wrote:Yards away.  They was 55 metres away.  (Door to table they was sat.  Unfortunately their x-ray vision was on the fritz though so seeing through walls was their downfall then.  (And their super hearing was working fine but the drugs they gave the kids obviously kept them doped up and quiet........alledgedly)

Everyone answer this one simple question.

If they hadnt left them in the room on their own would we be having this conversation?

Wrong question. If an innocent little girl hadn't been abducted, would we be having this discussion? 
Its not about the money, and its not about the blame, (with or without xray vision, super hearing, drugs, or a class war), its about somebody stealing, and possibly killing, a child.

Was she really abducted???

gloswhite wrote:

y2johnny wrote:Yards away.  They was 55 metres away.  (Door to table they was sat.  Unfortunately their x-ray vision was on the fritz though so seeing through walls was their downfall then.  (And their super hearing was working fine but the drugs they gave the kids obviously kept them doped up and quiet........alledgedly)

Everyone answer this one simple question.

If they hadnt left them in the room on their own would we be having this conversation?

Wrong question. If an innocent little girl hadn't been abducted, would we be having this discussion? 
Its not about the money, and its not about the blame, (with or without xray vision, super hearing, drugs, or a class war), its about somebody stealing, and possibly killing, a child.

Would somebody of been able to abduct her if the parents where there with her.

Come on glos.  You said it yourself.  You never left your own as i wouldnt.  They were in the wrong end of.  At the end of the day i dont even think she was abducted (to answer your question kp) 

But i dont fancy getting sued to fund another holiday or make over for kate for putting what i really think.

Think some of us oldies forget how things were like when we were kids.  Course our parents loved us and wanted us safe but the world was different back then and nobody thought anything about kids even toddlers playing on the streets all day and only coming home when your parents shouted for you!

I never understood why the McCanns left THREE kids under three alone. I find that incomprehensible. We all make mistakes as parents but you don’t leave three 3 and unders by themselves alone.

Obviously as a parent I feel their loss and can understand their need to keep looking for her for closure no mater what the outcome is.

There comes a time though when however reluctant you are you have to move on, for the sake of their other two children’s life and mental well-being.

As for Bonce hypothetical question, I guess a loving parent would let go as per King Solomon’s decision about cutting a baby in half.  I think though that any child would want to met their birth parents if they came to know their mum and dad at home aren’t they.

gloswhite wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Let me pose a theoretical scenario.
Put yourselves in the position of Maddie's parents. Two years from now,she's found,living with a couple in wherever.
She's now a young woman. She's been loved,educated,and is seemingly very happy with her 'family'.
What would you do?
Would you thank heaven that she was alive,and leave her be,feeling that would be the best for her?
Or would you want her back,causing unknown consequences? For you,and the young woman.
As a parent,you'd always want the best for your child. But could you accept that leaving her be was the best option?
I wouldn't want that choice. But I hope she's alive,and they have the need to make it.

That's a real peach of a question. I think that if she were alive, then she would have some memories of her earlier life, which should be encouraged. Of course there is the likelihood that if she stayed where she was, and it was accepted, then you are laying down a precedent for kidnapping, and can you really see the parents agreeing to such a situation when their own flesh and blood was stolen from them ?
The best that could happen was that the child would be able to go back to her new parents now and then, from her genuine parents.

With over 800 reported Maddie sightings in more than 100 different countries the likelihood of her return is negligible and given the number of unresolved abductions in the UK those precious resources may have been better used elsewhere IMO.

I think if she was found she would have to take the direction she wanted at her pace, i doubt the background would be so idyllic.

y2johnny wrote:Yards away.  They was 55 metres away.  (Door to table they was sat.  Unfortunately their x-ray vision was on the fritz though so seeing through walls was their downfall then.  (And their super hearing was working fine but the drugs they gave the kids obviously kept them doped up and quiet........alledgedly)

Everyone answer this one simple question.

If they hadnt left them in the room on their own would we be having this conversation?

Johnny i feel your outrage but actually yes, you could put your kids to bed, have a meal with your wife in the lounge, and some bastard gets in through a window and abducts a child, Its not the MCcanns that wanted this to happen this was business for profit, job staked out, opportunity taken.

But yes they made it easier so let's condemn them for ever. Again i refer you to the Bulger case and the little lad in Greece. They are not demonised.

wessy wrote:

y2johnny wrote:Yards away.  They was 55 metres away.  (Door to table they was sat.  Unfortunately their x-ray vision was on the fritz though so seeing through walls was their downfall then.  (And their super hearing was working fine but the drugs they gave the kids obviously kept them doped up and quiet........alledgedly)

Everyone answer this one simple question.

If they hadnt left them in the room on their own would we be having this conversation?

Johnny i feel your outrage but actually yes, you could put your kids to bed, have a meal with your wife in the lounge, and some bastard gets in through a window and abducts a child, Its not the MCcanns that wanted this to happen this was business for profit, job staked out, opportunity taken.

But yes they made it easier so let's condemn them for ever. Again i refer you to the Bulger case and the little lad in Greece. They are not demonised.

My windows are locked. So they couldn't. They need to take responsibility and they never have. 

And your basing your theory on an abduction.....

Like i said, I'm not willing to pay for their next holiday by saying what i really think

Plus theirs a difference putting your kids to bed in the same building and leaving your kids asleep in a building whilst your in a different one wining and dining without a care in the world

y2johnny wrote:My windows are locked. So they couldn't. They need to take responsibility and they never have. 

And your basing your theory on an abduction.....

Like i said, I'm not willing to pay for their next holiday by saying what i really think

Johnny, you're coming over like a massive knob. You clearly think you're parent of the year.

People make mistakes, and let's not pretend all parents don't let their guard down at some point. It doesn't mean they deserve to have their kid snatched.

Save your anger for the person who snatched the girl, and all the other arseholes that commit real crimes against kids.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

y2johnny wrote:My windows are locked. So they couldn't. They need to take responsibility and they never have. 

And your basing your theory on an abduction.....

Like i said, I'm not willing to pay for their next holiday by saying what i really think

Johnny, you're coming over like a massive knob. You clearly think you're parent of the year.

People make mistakes, and let's not pretend all parents don't let their guard down at some point. It doesn't mean they deserve to have their kid snatched.

Save your anger for the person who snatched the girl, and all the other arseholes that commit real crimes against kids.

So im a knob because i dont leave my kids on their own





Keep up the personal insults Nat.  What you always resort too when losing an argument

y2johnny wrote:
So im a knob because i dont leave my kids on their own





Keep up the personal insults Nat.  What you always resort too when losing an argument

No, for making out you're the best parent in the world, and trying to lord it over other parents on here.

Ive not lorded it over anyone.  All parents on here have said they havent left their kids on their own.  That includes wessy and glos.  Yet they excuse the mccanns for doing it.  Again, wrong, but keep going.

I agree with Johnny as I would never dream of leaving them at an apartment on their own whilst being elsewhere having dinner and getting pissed.

Wasn’t there something about finding blood down the back of the sofa or something similar with the initial investigation?

karlypants wrote:I agree with Johnny as I would never dream of leaving them at an apartment on their own whilst being elsewhere having dinner and getting pissed.

Wasn’t there something about finding blood down the back of the sofa or something similar with the initial investigation?

Boot of the car

y2johnny wrote:

karlypants wrote:I agree with Johnny as I would never dream of leaving them at an apartment on their own whilst being elsewhere having dinner and getting pissed.

Wasn’t there something about finding blood down the back of the sofa or something similar with the initial investigation?

Boot of the car

It seems that sniffer dogs found it down the back of a sofa in the apartment and also the boot of a hire car.