Brexit negotiations

Fair enough, you do deserve it. All that arguing from him, and he didn't have the nerve to tell the truth from the outset.
(I'm wondering what XM and TROY could be hiding   )

Dead in the water Sluffy? Not much point any of us posting then.

boltonbonce wrote:Dead in the water Sluffy? Not much point any of us posting then.

Certainly isn't anything like it used to be before Brexit and Anderson and Wanderlust and Bread's personal crusades against both of them and in particular anyone who didn't think like them!

The thing is that it now turns out Wanderlust was lying about how he voted in the referendum and all the bullshit since about how the referendum was flawed and how Brexit should never have happened and Breads ongoing unacceptable behaviour and persistent bans on Twitter.

Seems both have some sort of character flaws resulting in anti-social behaviour against anybody who disagrees with them.

The forums never recovered from their three years of 'anger' over Brexit and Anderson and anyone who thought differently to them.

I had hoped with Anderson going, the club having new owners and the team playing some attractive football that some of our past members might drift back again to join in with us, particularly that Bread and Wanderlust no longer post on here but sadly that hasn't taken place yet - if at all?

BTID, Karly and I have already been discussing what future funds are need to run the site which will be found, so we haven't given up on Nuts even though it seems the three years of attrition from Bread and Wanderlust over Brexit (which Wanderlust now actually admits HE VOTED FOR!!!) and Anderson have seen so many of our former regulars drift away from here because of).

We've consistently asked for people to help - with little to no interest forthcoming so we find ourselves where we are, just a handful of regulars left, not much in way of numbers of posts to get other new members interested enough to reply to and becalmed on the ocean of indifference, with no friendly breeze to fill our sails again to take us forward.

We are where we are.

Any ideas, suggestions, help, whatever, to take us forward welcome - and before anyone says it again, there are only TWO past posters banned - so unbanning everybody is not an option that is either a positive step or even one that will even work.

You're right Sluffy, and in keeping with your boats, sails, etc, I would say that the albatross has now gone from around our neck, but we are now down to a handful of regulars. Give it a bit more time, once Boris has sorted out Brexit, (or not), we may even find the mood lightens as the team picks up, and we pick up a new poster or two.
Were on the bones of our arse, but we can't stop now. The vitriole over Brexit has stopped flowing, with only the odd snipe now. Plod on mate, and we'll get out of this mire.

The forums at its busiest/most interesting when there’s debate, varied opinion and the odd row going on. If everyone’s in agreement there’s not much to read. Banning folk whose opinion doesn’t match sucks the life out of a forum, think that’s what’s happened here.

Just my opinion of course.

T.R.O.Y wrote:The forums at its busiest/most interesting when there’s debate, varied opinion and the odd row going on. If everyone’s in agreement there’s not much to read. Banning folk whose opinion doesn’t match sucks the life out of a forum, think that’s what’s happened here.

Just my opinion of course.

Sluffy wrote:...and before anyone says it again, there are only TWO past posters banned - so unbanning everybody is not an option that is either a positive step or even one that will even work.

For the record one is Manning who went out of his way to pry into my private life - yes he really did - and the other is Wanderlust who for three years has been trolling everyone on here about what a disaster Brexit is - when the lying nutjob voted to LEAVE in the first place!!!

If you want to spend your life interacting with those two trolls that's up to you but I'm certainly not wasting mine on here with them anymore.

I’m cool thanks. Just giving you my opinion on your internet vendettas.

T.R.O.Y wrote:I’m cool thanks. Just giving you my opinion on your internet vendettas.

I've no vendettas, internet or real life ones.

I've no mental health issues, no need to seek attention, no feeling of superiority over others and am able to say sorry if I am wrong about something.

That's probably why I'm not the one holding the vendettas, trolling and abusing people in the first place.

I'm convinced Boris will take us out on  time without a deal and i for one will be ecstatic.

Angry Dad wrote:I'm convinced Boris will take us out on  time without a deal and i for one will be ecstatic.

If not I will be voting for Mr. Farage’s Brexit Party and I will be first in line to start giving remainers a crack round the chops.

karlypants wrote:

Angry Dad wrote:I'm convinced Boris will take us out on  time without a deal and i for one will be ecstatic.

If not I will be voting for Mr. Farage’s Brexit Party and I will be first in line to start giving remainers a crack round the chops.

Are you sure that wasn’t you ranting at that Polish woman karly?

xmiles wrote:

karlypants wrote:

Angry Dad wrote:I'm convinced Boris will take us out on  time without a deal and i for one will be ecstatic.

If not I will be voting for Mr. Farage’s Brexit Party and I will be first in line to start giving remainers a crack round the chops.

Are you sure that wasn’t you ranting at that Polish woman karly?

I knew you would bite at that. So predictable.

So the forum going down the pan and being dead in the water has absolutely nothing to do with you eh Sluffy? 

Norpig wrote:So the forum going down the pan and being dead in the water has absolutely nothing to do with you eh Sluffy? 

Well if you wanted a forum that resembled Bolton News comments section full of multiple accounts from the same people, not knowing if you are having a conversation with someone with a real view or a fake one just to troll you and wind you up.  A forum which is abusive and intolerant of those not in the clique,  one that ridicules people behind their backs on private parts of the forum yet is twofaced to them on it, that deletes anything it doesn't like and bans posters on a whim, that doesn't treat people as equals or allow them their say - then yes, I'm as guilty as charged for stopping that happening.

Nuts as always been open and honest with everyone and no one is bigger than the site.

Maybe my principles are old fashioned and outdated in this age of social media?

How would you deal with people that troll you, whilst at the same time you see them publicly confessing to having mental illness issues elsewhere on social media?

How would you have run it any better then?

Life's too short to go over this again Sluffy, i've told you many times that i think you fan the flames on here when you have an issue with particular posters and don't like anyone's opinions other than your own.

Norpig wrote:Life's too short to go over this again Sluffy, i've told you many times that i think you fan the flames on here when you have an issue with particular posters and don't like anyone's opinions other than your own.

So in your view it's my fault and it's ok for Bread and Wanderlust to personally abuse me for three years before they were banned?

Why did they abuse me - well Bread wanted someone he didn't like (Scott) to be banned and I wouldn't do it and Wanderlust was emphatic that Anderson was going to rape the club for his own personal benefit which the forensic accountants have up to now found no trace of (and not to mention his blatant lying and deliberate trolling about how he actually voted for Brexit!)

Both were wrong - yet you're making out I'm the bad guy here?

Maybe you'd prefer it if they each came back and abused me for another three years more?

I'm biting, not sure why though. Lusty wasn't the only one to have the same views about Anderson and at the end of the day that's his opinion. A forum is meant to be a place where you can have an opinion and others will either agree or disagree.
My main issue with you is that you just can't see that you have made it personal with the likes of Lusty.Granted he did take it too far some times but it became almost a personal battle on here between the two of you and that is why people have stopped posting and new members don't feel they can contribute.
People got so fed up with the constant back and forth between you two. Maybe i'm reading too much into it but maybe it's time i looked for another forum to post on as you will never change and this site will descend into a long painful and slow death.
Keep fiddling Nero.

Norpig wrote:I'm biting, not sure why though. Lusty wasn't the only one to have the same views about Anderson and at the end of the day that's his opinion. A forum is meant to be a place where you can have an opinion and others will either agree or disagree.
My main issue with you is that you just can't see that you have made it personal with the likes of Lusty.Granted he did take it too far some times but it became almost a personal battle on here between the two of you and that is why people have stopped posting and new members don't feel they can contribute.
People got so fed up with the constant back and forth between you two. Maybe i'm reading too much into it but maybe it's time i looked for another forum to post on as you will never change and this site will descend into a long painful and slow death.
Keep fiddling Nero.

Ok, I'll bite back!

I've got plenty going on in my life shortly and was going to step back for a while in a few weeks anyway but I'll do it now instead.

I'll unban Wanderlust, Breads already free to post and you can do whatever you like without me being around - you can also deal with any solicitor letters we receive too when the 'opinion' of some is seen to be libellous - yes it does happen.

As it's me that's apparently fucked up the forum I've no doubt you'll soon have it busy and fun again in my absence.

Over to you now.

In all fairness Mr. Pig, I got more than my fair share from Bread and they both came on in the early hours pissed posting abuse on many, many occasions.

Sluffy, you often make a rod for your own back. The trick to beating abuse is not to bite back. Not only you fall into the trap, a few others do the same.
Abusers hate being ignored, or made fun of. I treat Nuts like a playground. Some posters I'll get on with more than others, due probably to a similar sense of humour or outlook, but to the outside eye it might look like a clique, though this isn't intentional.
I've given you stick myself, but I've always tried to do it with as much humour as possible, and with tongue firmly in cheek, and you've always taken it in the spirit it was intended.
My own view is that if people want to post abuse, let them do it. In the end they'll be found out by other posters, who'll get thoroughly sick and tired of it.
Biting back once or twice is all well and good, but if it continues it simply becomes a sausage machine, with the abuser happily turning the handle, and the abused supplying the meat.
Ignore them, or laugh at them, and they'll soon get tired of it.
As I've said before, Nuts is very much the Bash Street Kids in forum form, with you our long suffering teacher. If you leave us, what might happen?