HomeAngry Dad wrote:xmiles wrote:If there is a second referendum we might not be leaving the EU.
There is a realistic chance that we won't!!
CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON.
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Who will you vote for.
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141 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 15:02
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
There is a realistic chance that we won't!!
142 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 15:21
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
At this time, I think the likely outcome is that we will leave the EU, and the only thing to be decided is with what type of plan, or not, that we have in place.
I doubt very much we will cancel Article 50. It will be even more chaotic than now if we have a second referendum. Many people will feel that the democratic process has not been followed, which could throw another factor into the mix. Whilst all this bitching and backbiting is going on, we're rolling steadily to the legal default. I think Corbyn is a weak man, and a ditherer, so may well go with his MP's and put it to the vote, if he gets the opportunity.
I doubt very much we will cancel Article 50. It will be even more chaotic than now if we have a second referendum. Many people will feel that the democratic process has not been followed, which could throw another factor into the mix. Whilst all this bitching and backbiting is going on, we're rolling steadily to the legal default. I think Corbyn is a weak man, and a ditherer, so may well go with his MP's and put it to the vote, if he gets the opportunity.
143 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 15:43
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
rammywhite wrote:Angry Dad wrote:xmiles wrote:If there is a second referendum we might not be leaving the EU.
There is a realistic chance that we won't!!
144 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 16:33
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
xmiles wrote:Hipster_Nebula wrote:The stat only holds up if you don't add the Tory's to the leave vote. Also many labour voters, of the few that are left, will be leavers too.
In essence the referendum result has probably not changed very much.
Obviously we don't know how many of the tory and labour voters on Thursday would opt for leave or remain but not every tory voter is happy to leave especially if it were on a no deal basis.
Also I find it curious that you refer to "the few that are left" labour voters when labour took 14.1% of the vote and the tories only 9.1% putting them in 5th place behind the greens.
I don't find it curious. Both parties have little support.
145 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 16:37
Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Just leave it to Boris!!!
146 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 17:51
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Big Boris would beat Corbyn in an election.
147 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 18:24
Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Correct, a twat of a PM with more bollox than the person that will replace her!karlypants wrote:And how is it pointless?boltonbonce wrote:To what end? It's pointless.Angry Dad wrote:Brexit Party
For one it’s showing that twat of a prime minister she’s a useless and spineless woman and that she needs to fuck off.
She probably knows this anyway but it’s a bloody good confirmation.
148 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 18:29
Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
It's generally accepted that the main leave voters are wrinkly twats so a few will be looking at the coffin lid!
For the record Nat is 78 knocking on 75!!
For the record Nat is 78 knocking on 75!!
149 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 19:09
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Bloody hell Soul Kitchen is back from the dead 
Glad to see Tommeh nobhead only got 2% of the vote and lost his deposit
Glad to see Tommeh nobhead only got 2% of the vote and lost his deposit
150 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Mon May 27 2019, 20:33
Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
You are right I'm back but only on a day trip!Norpig wrote:Bloody hell Soul Kitchen is back from the dead
Glad to see Tommeh nobhead only got 2% of the vote and lost his deposit
Your thoughts about my early demise are unfounded!!
152 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 14:25
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Labour inexorably moving onto a second referendum. That's Labour, the Lib Dems, the Greens ,SNP, Plaid ,Sinn Fein the DUP, the UUP, Change and all the rest heading in that direction. The only ones going in the opposite direction are now the impotent, dysfunctional and utterly bereft Tories.
We're going to have a second referendum and undo the madness of leaving . Hooray!!!
Leavers, get over it -we're staying in the EU
We're going to have a second referendum and undo the madness of leaving . Hooray!!!
Leavers, get over it -we're staying in the EU
153 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:03
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
rammywhite wrote:Labour inexorably moving onto a second referendum. That's Labour, the Lib Dems, the Greens ,SNP, Plaid ,Sinn Fein the DUP, the UUP, Change and all the rest heading in that direction. The only ones going in the opposite direction are now the impotent, dysfunctional and utterly bereft Tories.
We're going to have a second referendum and undo the madness of leaving . Hooray!!!
Leavers, get over it -we're staying in the EU
154 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:30
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Why would a second poll be any different?
155 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:31
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Oh dear ! Rammy, I had you down as a lot smarter than that 
There are many reasons why such a simplistic calculation may well be wrong. Its not just the Tories that have crumbled, but Labour as well. Each side is made up of both leavers and remainers, and the exact amount cannot be calculated enough to say what the outcome will be.
As for getting over it, that's applied to the remainers and their spoiling tactics since the Referendum.
There are many reasons why such a simplistic calculation may well be wrong. Its not just the Tories that have crumbled, but Labour as well. Each side is made up of both leavers and remainers, and the exact amount cannot be calculated enough to say what the outcome will be.As for getting over it, that's applied to the remainers and their spoiling tactics since the Referendum.
156 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:33
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Natasha Whittam wrote:Why would a second poll be any different?
Because many Leavers have changed their mind to remain.
157 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:35
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Natasha Whittam wrote:Why would a second poll be any different?
Because people would know what they were voting for.
158 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:35
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
rammywhite wrote:Labour inexorably moving onto a second referendum. That's Labour, the Lib Dems, the Greens ,SNP, Plaid ,Sinn Fein the DUP, the UUP, Change and all the rest heading in that direction. The only ones going in the opposite direction are now the impotent, dysfunctional and utterly bereft Tories.
We're going to have a second referendum and undo the madness of leaving . Hooray!!!
Leavers, get over it -we're staying in the EU
Deary, deary me.
159 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:41
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
gloswhite wrote:Oh dear ! Rammy, I had you down as a lot smarter than that
As for getting over it, that's applied to the remainers and their spoiling tactics since the Referendum.
Nothing is certain but a 40.4/34.9 split is indicative of a majority in favour of staying in the EU. How the tory and labour voters would vote is hard to tell but if we do leave the EU I think another referendum on Scottish independence is likely. So Cameron has not only divided the country but also quite possibly broken the UK. Just to humour a few loonies in the tory party.
160 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Tue May 28 2019, 15:45
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Glos-it was partly tongue in cheek to stir up the leavers to a state of mild apoplexy!gloswhite wrote:Oh dear ! Rammy, I had you down as a lot smarter than that
As for getting over it, that's applied to the remainers and their spoiling tactics since the Referendum.
But a second referendum is becoming a real possibility given the fact that nothing will get through parliament now ( the session is almost up for the year), because of personal fiefdoms and political party opposition to whatever the others say.
But above all we can't have a no-deal exit as that looks like the alternative that we are facing now.
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