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121How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Feb 22 2020, 09:47

okocha

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122How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Feb 22 2020, 10:14

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

T.R.O.Y wrote:It’s a national embarrassment that views such as this have been fuelled by media spin and right wing lies, it should have been nipped in the bud years ago but it suited the governing party to push blame onto migration and the EU / completely disassociate austerity with having any negative consequences.

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1230625055803133953?s=21

Extreme views like this need to be exposed, questioned and debunked. We have done a shit job in doing that for years now.
I wouldn't say it's an extreme view TROY - more a perfectly valid question which deserves a competent answer. The woman clearly doesn't understand that immigration is the cornerstone of Britain's development (as we're all descended from immigrants) that it brings in more income than all the costs she is referring to and that the very services she is referring to wouldn't exist if it was not for foreign workers. I didn't watch the programme but I hope that someone has the sense to educate her.

123How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Feb 22 2020, 12:44

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You think the view that we should immediately close all borders and stop all immigration is not extreme?  Short of deporting immigrants it’s as far along the spectrum as you can go, so you’re wrong on that.

Unfortunately everything she said was a load of rubbish, we need to stop pussy footing around people like this saying they have valid views - they’re only valid if they are based on facts.

124How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Feb 22 2020, 14:30

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

The most disconcerting thing is that this was the only clip from Thursday's  QT that the BBC chose to put on its webste, and it was posted without comment or challenge.

125How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Feb 22 2020, 16:00

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

And of course idiots like this woman voted for Brexit. Rolling Eyes

126How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Feb 22 2020, 23:28

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

T.R.O.Y wrote:It’s a national embarrassment that views such as this have been fuelled by media spin and right wing lies, it should have been nipped in the bud years ago but it suited the governing party to push blame onto migration and the EU / completely disassociate austerity with having any negative consequences.

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1230625055803133953?s=21

Extreme views like this need to be exposed, questioned and debunked. We have done a shit job in doing that for years now.
:rofl:

127How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Feb 23 2020, 11:04

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In the same show, another audience member claimed that the EU were to blame for the recent flooding as they were preventing rivers from being maintained properly. 

It's no wonder so many voted Brexit/have a fear of the EU if this is the sort of thing they've been brainwashed to believe.

128How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Tue Feb 25 2020, 13:08

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

Brilliant well done that woman :clap:

129How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Wed Feb 26 2020, 16:35

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

"This is Going to Hurt" by Adam Kay. Essential reading for all....including government ministers.....

Hilarious, but also intensely revelatory and moving.

130How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Feb 29 2020, 11:17

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

A damning indictment of our increasingly despotic government:


The top civil servant in the Home Office has resigned and said he intends to sue the government for constructive dismissal.


Sir Philip Rutnam said there had been a "vicious and orchestrated" campaign against him in Home Secretary Priti Patel's office.


Sir Philip, who has had a career spanning 33 years, said he believed his experience was "extreme" but part of a "wider pattern" in government.

131How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 07:59

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Apparently Britain doesn't need farmers or a fishing industry according to one of Boris' top advisers. Is that what you brexiteers voted for?

"In leaked emails obtained by The Mail on Sunday, powerful Treasury adviser Tim Leunig argues that the food sector is not 'critically important' to the economy - and that agriculture and fishery production 'certainly isn't'. In his astonishing remarks - which comes as the UK prepares to enter crunch post-Brexit trade talks with Donald Trump - Dr Leunig implies that the UK could follow the example of Singapore 'which is rich without having its own agricultural sector'. Dr Leunig is a long-standing colleague of Boris Johnson's No 10 enforcer Dominic Cummings, and his intervention exemplifies the radical thinking within Boris Johnson's inner circle against bastions of the Establishment such as the Civil Service and the BBC."

That should make the negotiations easier but it is hardly taking back control is it?

132How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 12:14

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

xmiles wrote:Apparently Britain doesn't need farmers or a fishing industry according to one of Boris' top advisers. Is that what you brexiteers voted for?

"In leaked emails obtained by The Mail on Sunday, powerful Treasury adviser Tim Leunig argues that the food sector is not 'critically important' to the economy - and that agriculture and fishery production 'certainly isn't'. In his astonishing remarks - which comes as the UK prepares to enter crunch post-Brexit trade talks with Donald Trump - Dr Leunig implies that the UK could follow the example of Singapore 'which is rich without having its own agricultural sector'. Dr Leunig is a long-standing colleague of Boris Johnson's No 10 enforcer Dominic Cummings, and his intervention exemplifies the radical thinking within Boris Johnson's inner circle against bastions of the Establishment such as the Civil Service and the BBC."

That should make the negotiations easier but it is hardly taking back control is it?  

Desperate post.

133How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 12:24

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Natasha Whittam wrote:
xmiles wrote:Apparently Britain doesn't need farmers or a fishing industry according to one of Boris' top advisers. Is that what you brexiteers voted for?

"In leaked emails obtained by The Mail on Sunday, powerful Treasury adviser Tim Leunig argues that the food sector is not 'critically important' to the economy - and that agriculture and fishery production 'certainly isn't'. In his astonishing remarks - which comes as the UK prepares to enter crunch post-Brexit trade talks with Donald Trump - Dr Leunig implies that the UK could follow the example of Singapore 'which is rich without having its own agricultural sector'. Dr Leunig is a long-standing colleague of Boris Johnson's No 10 enforcer Dominic Cummings, and his intervention exemplifies the radical thinking within Boris Johnson's inner circle against bastions of the Establishment such as the Civil Service and the BBC."

That should make the negotiations easier but it is hardly taking back control is it?  

Desperate post.

Why do you think that?

134How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 12:28

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

You're quoting a newspaper.

135How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 13:44

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Natasha Whittam wrote:You're quoting a newspaper.

Yes, the Mail on Sunday which as you well know is a Tory paper.

This article is an illustration of one of the potential consequences of brexit and I would be surprised if this is what a lot of brexit voters expected.

136How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 14:10

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I voted Brexit to keep my bananas bendy, as you well know.

137How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 14:14

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

okocha wrote:A damning indictment of our increasingly despotic government:


The top civil servant in the Home Office has resigned and said he intends to sue the government for constructive dismissal.


Sir Philip Rutnam said there had been a "vicious and orchestrated" campaign against him in Home Secretary Priti Patel's office.


Sir Philip, who has had a career spanning 33 years, said he believed his experience was "extreme" but part of a "wider pattern" in government
He was a trouble maker he had to go and she gets things done, she will be pm one day.

138How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 16:21

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Angry Dad wrote:
okocha wrote:A damning indictment of our increasingly despotic government:


The top civil servant in the Home Office has resigned and said he intends to sue the government for constructive dismissal.


Sir Philip Rutnam said there had been a "vicious and orchestrated" campaign against him in Home Secretary Priti Patel's office.


Sir Philip, who has had a career spanning 33 years, said he believed his experience was "extreme" but part of a "wider pattern" in government
He was a trouble maker he had to go and she gets things done, she will be pm one day.
Comment by a reporter on the Sophie Ridge show was that some people think he was no longer up to the job, (presumably coping with the change of pace and ways of working).

139How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 16:31

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

gloswhite wrote:
Angry Dad wrote:
okocha wrote:A damning indictment of our increasingly despotic government:


The top civil servant in the Home Office has resigned and said he intends to sue the government for constructive dismissal.


Sir Philip Rutnam said there had been a "vicious and orchestrated" campaign against him in Home Secretary Priti Patel's office.


Sir Philip, who has had a career spanning 33 years, said he believed his experience was "extreme" but part of a "wider pattern" in government
He was a trouble maker he had to go and she gets things done, she will be pm one day.
Comment by a reporter on the Sophie Ridge show was that some people think he was no longer up to the job, (presumably coping with the change of pace and ways of working).

All part of the standard briefing against him of course.

It will be interesting to see what comes out in court.

140How is the Tory government doing? - Page 7 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun Mar 01 2020, 17:07

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I’m sure if the courts were to find in his favour the response will be that judges are too left wing and the establishment are against the Tories. 

Any negativity is denied or ignored by this government and it’s supporters.

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