Coronavirus - will we survive?

My boy is showing symptoms fever etc he lives in Finsbury Park so is his girlfriend.

Angry Dad wrote:My boy is showing symptoms fever etc he lives in Finsbury Park so is his girlfriend.

Hope they are both ok mate.

There are a few articles knocking about which state that coronavirus survivors can have substantially reduced lung capacity and organ damage so it's not just about the deaths.
Meanwhile 200 scientists have written to the Government to tell them they are not doing enough - and I reckon the Government may take notice so it looks like we're heading towards lockdown soon.

Seems to be a really good thought-out explanation but you need to watch it to the end to understand fully why we are dealing with this differently to most other country, who look as though they might have to go through this all again later on down the line, whilst we might not.

This is the clearest, most informative video of why the government is not closing schools and quarantining us.

This WILL SAVE LIVES in the long run and make absolutely sure the NHS is not overrun.

Quarantine only when the NHS is at 95% of MAX capacity. We have one shot at it. pic.twitter.com/w1CvtiMVwd

— Louis Stedman-Bryce (@Lstedmanbryce) March 14, 2020

Good stuff that sluffy. Everyone should be made to watch it.

The amount of nutters who think they know better than the experts is incredible.

Sluffy wrote:Seems to be a really good thought-out explanation but you need to watch it to the end to understand fully why we are dealing with this differently to most other country, who look as though they might have to go through this all again later on down the line, whilst we might not.

This is the clearest, most informative video of why the government is not closing schools and quarantining us.

This WILL SAVE LIVES in the long run and make absolutely sure the NHS is not overrun.

Quarantine only when the NHS is at 95% of MAX capacity. We have one shot at it. pic.twitter.com/w1CvtiMVwd

— Louis Stedman-Bryce (@Lstedmanbryce) March 14, 2020

All very interesting but at the time that the NHS starts overflowing in the analogy i.e. the time he suggests we should start quarantining, the five day gestation period in conjunction with the increased number of "infectors" out there will mean that it will be too late for a larger proportion of the population as they will already have it and demand for services and beds will be at it's highest at the very time they want to start quarantining.

Seems to me that they have only partially thought it through.

Supermarkets rammed today.

wanderlust wrote:
All very interesting but at the time that the NHS starts overflowing in the analogy i.e. the time he suggests we should start quarantining, the five day gestation period in conjunction with the increased number of "infectors" out there will mean that it will be too late for a larger proportion of the population as they will already have it and demand for services and beds will be at it's highest at the very time they want to start quarantining.

Seems to me that they have only partially thought it through.

Once again you know better than the experts (on everything).

Why does that not surprise me.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

The amount of nutters who think they know better than the experts is incredible.

When have you ever listened to "the experts"? "Project Fear" ring a bell?

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:
All very interesting but at the time that the NHS starts overflowing in the analogy i.e. the time he suggests we should start quarantining, the five day gestation period in conjunction with the increased number of "infectors" out there will mean that it will be too late for a larger proportion of the population as they will already have it and demand for services and beds will be at it's highest at the very time they want to start quarantining.

Seems to me that they have only partially thought it through.

Once again you know better than the experts (on everything).

Why does that not surprise me.

Come on then smartass, explain to me why that isn't right. Or could you not resist the urge to have a dig without actually thinking about what I was saying as usual?

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:
All very interesting but at the time that the NHS starts overflowing in the analogy i.e. the time he suggests we should start quarantining, the five day gestation period in conjunction with the increased number of "infectors" out there will mean that it will be too late for a larger proportion of the population as they will already have it and demand for services and beds will be at it's highest at the very time they want to start quarantining.

Seems to me that they have only partially thought it through.

Once again you know better than the experts (on everything).

Why does that not surprise me.

Come on then smartass, explain to me why that isn't right. Or could you not resist the urge to have a dig without actually thinking about what I was saying as usual?

You really believe ALL the top Government Health experts - the ones with all the information, medical expertise, facts and figures - have not taken the obvious into account???

And you say I post without thinking!!!

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:
All very interesting but at the time that the NHS starts overflowing in the analogy i.e. the time he suggests we should start quarantining, the five day gestation period in conjunction with the increased number of "infectors" out there will mean that it will be too late for a larger proportion of the population as they will already have it and demand for services and beds will be at it's highest at the very time they want to start quarantining.

Seems to me that they have only partially thought it through.

Once again you know better than the experts (on everything).

Why does that not surprise me.

Come on then smartass, explain to me why that isn't right. Or could you not resist the urge to have a dig without actually thinking about what I was saying as usual?

You really believe ALL the top Government Health experts - the ones with all the information, medical expertise, facts and figures - have not taken the obvious into account???

And you say I post without thinking!!!

I understand what they are saying even if they disagree with other equally eminent experts in other countries who have put their word behind the policies that are most expedient for their Governments. And there's the rub...strategies are formed, policies are derived and information that supports those policies is released. And in situation where we have a Government who are highly selective in the information they give out it does no harm to look at the other information in the public domain that they don't promote via press releases as it may contradict the policies they have decided upon.
I understand the need to take an actuarial approach to policy formulation as they have done here, and to support that policy with propaganda.
But it doesn't detract from the fact that there is more going on than they're saying e.g. today's story about Trump bribing the German vaccine researchers to try to gain exclusive rights for the USA so they can charge everyone else what they want.
Or the playing down of the fact that it will come back next year and every year until everyone has either survived it and developed an immunity or have been vaccinated.
One thing is for sure - I don't blandly take the propaganda I'm fed at face value whether it comes from a Government paid lackey or a tax avoidance specialist accountant.

Sluffy wrote:

Angry Dad wrote:My boy is showing symptoms fever etc he lives in Finsbury Park so is his girlfriend.

Hope they are both ok mate.

Thanks Sluffy but he's not answering his phone today so i don't know at the moment. He called me from Sainsbury's yesterday morning and said people were fighting over items i said he shouldn't be there but he said they needed food and pain killers, he will have got it going to work on the underground.

Death toll now 35 with 1,372 confirmed cases now.

I hope you are all making sure your loved ones especially the ones vulnerable are ok.

I do hope this important thread is not going to descend into another Sluffy/Lusty PRICK waving contest.

MartinBWFC wrote:

Just heard off the grape vine that my local ASDA is reducing it's hours from the usual 24 hours during the week from tomorrow so it's worth checking before any of you chaps go out to do your shopping late at night!

Weird, why would they do that?