Coronavirus - will we survive?

I want to just make it clear that in all honesty I havent done a bulk shop at all and I am also struggling to buy some stuff too.

I went into my local Lidl at around 7pm for 2 sides of salmon and the IPA I like as I enjoy eating it raw (sashimi) and the place was a mess. Absolutely no meat what so ever apart from beef joints and I guess due to the price. I did pick one of these up as I thought it would be good for butties.

They had no bread, no cream and milk, no tins, no bog roll and kitchen roll. Lots of choco though!

The IPA had long gone too so had to buy a different one.

The till workers had the masks on and latex gloves which was good considering for them.

Just madness!

boltonbonce wrote:My 90 year old mum, as I mentioned last week, had a fall, and although they said at the hospital she only had underlying tissue damage, or bruising, a call from them yesterday informed me that, after reviewing her X-rays, there was a very slight crack in her humorus.
They said they'd normally see her at the fracture clinic, but, due to her age, and the coronavirus, they were happy for her to rest at home, although she'd be in pain for a couple of weeks.
She's having to sleep in a chair because lying on her back is still too painful at the moment, but she's taking it all in great good humour.
These are difficult times, and we're having to learn on the job with regard to getting through it. It's rather like doing a crossword puzzle on a trampoline.
Hang in there men. And ladies of course.

Your mum is a real fighter mate. Not like some of these bloody women nowadays.

I have every faith in her getting back on to her feet in no time.

Hopefully she is ok whilst we are going through this situation we are all going through right now.

I wish her all the luck in the world.

karlypants wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:My 90 year old mum, as I mentioned last week, had a fall, and although they said at the hospital she only had underlying tissue damage, or bruising, a call from them yesterday informed me that, after reviewing her X-rays, there was a very slight crack in her humorus.
They said they'd normally see her at the fracture clinic, but, due to her age, and the coronavirus, they were happy for her to rest at home, although she'd be in pain for a couple of weeks.
She's having to sleep in a chair because lying on her back is still too painful at the moment, but she's taking it all in great good humour.
These are difficult times, and we're having to learn on the job with regard to getting through it. It's rather like doing a crossword puzzle on a trampoline.
Hang in there men. And ladies of course.

Your mum is a real fighter mate. Not like some of these bloody women nowadays.

I have every faith in her getting back on to her feet in no time.

Hopefully she is ok whilst we are going through this situation we are all going through right now.

Thanks KP. She's had a rough year, but like many of her generation, just gets on with it. Can't keep us Brits down.

Wow, what a shit storm eh!

Well you think id be snowed under work wise, but because the world is full of fucking morons, there is a shortage of RPE for the ones who may actually need it. 

I did some testing at a local urgent care clinic for nurses who are on the front line and have/ will be testing and swabbing people.  They cant get the stuff they need and they are running round Like blue arsed flies hands tied by red tape and held back by clueless "higher ups!"

I have got some masks,  about 150 disposable and 10 half face (the gvs ones KP, they are decent masks!) But im refusing to sell them on Ebay for 60 quid a box like some of the leaches even though it is very worrying times as a small business owner. 

As for the panic buying, I've come to the conclusion the human race is just shit.  If I had the infinity stones (marvel reference) I would be clicking my fingers and ridding the world of hoarders, profiteers and all the scare mongering bell ends spreading fake news. 

NOBODY KNOWS how this is going to pan out.  That is why the term UNPRECEDENTED has been used.  This is the time for everyone to stop the shithousery, come together and actually try to make the world as decent as a place we can make it.  The virus holds no bounds, it doesn't discriminate against certain religions, race, sex etc so put everything to one side, and be a FUCKING DECENT PERSON as we try to come through this. 

P.s.  Hi Bonce

Johnny!
Great to see you on here again,just a shame it's in these troubling times. We'll certainly see the worst of people, but we'll also see the best, and I'm confident we'll come out the other side with a new slant on life. Hope so anyway.
It's a strange old world without sport.

boltonbonce wrote:Johnny!
Great to see you on here again,just a shame it's in these troubling times. We'll certainly see the worst of people, but we'll also see the best, and I'm confident we'll come out the other side with a new slant on life. Hope so anyway.
It's a strange old world without sport.

Salford finished on a high last Friday, beating the pies!!!  I was there, the kids even wore masks as a bit of a joke as people where saying not to go. 

The worst ive seen that's really boiled my piss was a corner shop owner who bought about 20 packs of loo roll and someone went into his shop and he was selling them for double.

Anyway,  I've got to keep working until they (the clueless fucking government) tell me I cant anymore to delay what seems like the inevitable dependant on how long this thing lasts. 

To make matters worse we are in the middle of having our kitchen done and have no kitchen at all at the moment.  Knowing my luck we will go into lockdown before is finished. We've not been able to shop as it's pointless with no kitchen.  I've got 4 pot noodles, 20 cans of Pepsi max, and about 11 big rolls.

Does anybody want to buy a kidney?

By the time we've dug out and consumed the stuff at the back of the freezer that is at least 3 years old I'm hoping the supermarkets have had a chance to restock. If not, that cat that sneaks into my garden and shits on my lawn is history. If things get really bad, the missus has a bit of meat on her.....and there are a couple of 80 year olds who live nearby, but they're probably not good for much more than stock.

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:Finally after the scientific community rounded on the Government's coronavirus strategy and their lack of honesty about it, the virus modelling from Imperial College that the Government is using has been published - and it predicts 250,000+ deaths* in the UK - so now it's out there and the scientific community critical of the the Government has got it's wish.

Meanwhile on the business front it's become clear that only days after Sunak's budget, his proposed measures of £12 billion support for businesses is looking completely inadequate - especially when compared to Macron's pledge that "no French business will be allowed to fail - even if it takes hundreds of billions" (which it probably will IMO)

Moreover, the whole Government strategy has been amended as they have realised the key problem with the old one - that there is no exit strategy (as I tried to explain to my troll the other day) - starting with yesterday's announcement from Boris. New, more realistic financial measures to keep businesses afloat expected soon.

I'll stop short of saying our Government lies to us, but it has to be noted that their "experts" have been very selective in the information they have released to date and partisan in their interpretation of the modelling.

* see p16 of the report. Note also that this figure assumes "even if everyone could be treated"
US deaths expected to exceed 1.1 million.

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Why do you always believe there is a conspiracy when the real truth is as simple as this -

"In the last 24 hours, Downing Street's instructions to the public to protect everyone's health changed at breakneck speed as new scientific data emerged".

Data was already there and has been for weeks as it came from China via Imperial. It emerging was new - although they did update it yesterday before release.

And I was telling you days ago that the Government's strategy was flawed, but to their credit they have changed tack now - even though it took the cat crawling out of the bag for them to do it.

So to paraphrase you, hopefully you will finally accept the view that I originally put forward and retract your insults - or do you think you know better than the Government's own "experts" ?

Wrong.

The MODEL was there, the actual DATA is new.

Don't you know the difference between the two - apparently not?

It's not a hard concept to understand.

Putting the actual DATA from the last few days into the MODEL has resulted in moving much more quickly into the next stage in fighting this than was predicted.

Do you get it now?

I certainly don't know better than the Government's experts, or any other proven expert come to that - clearly you do.

You know better than anyone apparently about everything.

Or at least you think you do.

Would not surprise me at all if you were an expert on piles too, considering all the shite that come out of your hole!

No you're wrong. The data has been around since January and it was on that basis that the WHO declared the emergency. Obviously it has been added to.

Are you suggesting a) that the Government created their first strategy using data modelling without data? or b) that the small amount of data collected since Friday completely changed the whole picture when added to the huge amount of data collected over the last couple of months that was already in existence? If the latter you're an idiot because it clearly shows you don't understand data modelling - and you don't read things properly the report says that "this realisation has happened only in the past few days" i.e. they've only just cottoned on to what it really means.

Come on Sluffy...man up, accept that you are and were wrong, withdraw your incessant stream of insults and apologise for being a twat.
Actually, don't bother with the last one because it's not necessarily your fault.

wanderlust wrote:That was funny. Kuennsberg asked Chris Witless if he regretted not taking this action earlier and he went beetroot red when delivering the party line of "the right thing at the right time". He effing well should be embarrassed as thousands of people will have been infected unnecessarily because of him.

Plenty of squirming, but no admission they got it completely wrong.

It's not difficult, I can only assume you are deliberately missing the point on purpose because you NEVER admit to be wrong.

You create a model and put in various details to PREDICT what you expect will happen in the future.

No one knows exactly how good the model is until you get ACTUAL 'data' and compare what has really happened against prediction - and refine the model accordingly to become more accurate in its predictions for the future.

It seems the ACTUAL data is higher than that PREDICTED for the point we are on, on the upward curve of the virus in this country and thus why we've simply moved on to the next stage on the model.

Seems the model got the predictions wrong in respect of Italy and consequently us and it was the refining of the model plus the input of ACTUAL data that led to the Governments new measures.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Tbh I find your behaviour on this thread totally repugnant.  

As you are fully aware there's regular posters on Nuts who are in the highest risk category or have loved ones in it yet all you are clearly concerned about is about scoring points off both the Conservative government and myself and making out how clever you are (about fecking everything) and how dumb the rest of us are, whilst you clearly can't admit to being the least bit wrong - about anything - not just this.

This isn't about your fragile ego.

It's about real people, love ones, dying.

Question:

If I keep quoting this idiot's inane responses and desperate bids for approval via emotional appeals in the absence of reason and understanding, will we eventually get a post that is so big it will take up an entire page?

wanderlust wrote:By the time we've dug out and consumed the stuff at the back of the freezer that is at least 3 years old I'm hoping the supermarkets have had a chance to restock. If not, that cat that sneaks into my garden and shits on my lawn is history. If things get really bad, the missus has a bit of meat on her.....and there are a couple of 80 year olds who live nearby, but they're probably not good for much more than stock.

I'm a veggie, and if the bloke up the road thinks his allotment is safe, he's got another think coming. He's put barbed wire up and has started living there, but a few of us have got together to plan a daring raid.
We are 5 determined coves. 6 if Nigel gets his hearing aid fixed. Might get ugly.

y2johnny wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Johnny!
Great to see you on here again,just a shame it's in these troubling times. We'll certainly see the worst of people, but we'll also see the best, and I'm confident we'll come out the other side with a new slant on life. Hope so anyway.
It's a strange old world without sport.

Salford finished on a high last Friday, beating the pies!!!  I was there, the kids even wore masks as a bit of a joke as people where saying not to go. 

The worst ive seen that's really boiled my piss was a corner shop owner who bought about 20 packs of loo roll and someone went into his shop and he was selling them for double.

Anyway,  I've got to keep working until they (the clueless fucking government) tell me I cant anymore to delay what seems like the inevitable dependant on how long this thing lasts. 

To make matters worse we are in the middle of having our kitchen done and have no kitchen at all at the moment.  Knowing my luck we will go into lockdown before is finished. We've not been able to shop as it's pointless with no kitchen.  I've got 4 pot noodles, 20 cans of Pepsi max, and about 11 big rolls.

Does anybody want to buy a kidney?

The bloke from the corner shop perhaps?

Anyway good to hear from you again Johnny, hope you decide to visit us a bit more often right now as there's no football for us or RL for you and 99% of the nastiness that we suffered from has now largely gone with Anderson leaving at Brexit being officially agreed to.

We miss your humour mate and we all could do with a good laugh right now.

No doubt Natasha will be in touch with you about those Pepsi's you have!

Well, well, well, he's back and thank fuck for that!

I nearly had you on the blower regarding the GVS mask and spare set of filters I have.  Although I now know this is fine for this situation.

I am now feeling happy after seeing you on here minus bog roll we are running out!

Hope you and all your family are fine and well in these troubling times mate and I mean it from my heart.

wanderlust wrote:Question:

If I keep quoting this idiot's inane responses and desperate bids for approval via emotional appeals in the absence of reason and understanding, will we eventually get a post that is so big it will take up an entire page?

No because I'll just pot you as you are clearly seeking attention and a reaction on a thread where at least three people have told us all that they and/or their love ones are in the high risk category where catching the virus could be fatal to them.

Haven't you got that into your self-centred and petty minded little head of yours yet?

This isn't a game for some of us.

This shouldn't have been needed to have been spelt out to you, which just goes to shows how much up your own arse you actually are.

Something nice to watch in these troubling times guys...

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:Question:

If I keep quoting this idiot's inane responses and desperate bids for approval via emotional appeals in the absence of reason and understanding, will we eventually get a post that is so big it will take up an entire page?

No because I'll just pot you as you are clearly seeking attention and a reaction on a thread where at least three people have told us all that they and/or their love ones are in the high risk category where catching the virus could be fatal to them.

Haven't you got that into your self-centred and petty minded little head of yours yet?

This isn't a game for some of us.

This shouldn't have been needed to have been spelt out to you, which just goes to shows how much up your own arse you actually are.

Refer back to post 266 in which I made a perfectly valid observation - later proved to be true - and your response in 268 was to make a snidey (and illogical BTW) insult for absolutely no reason whatsoever. The fact is....
You started the problem - I just gave my opinion and expressed a theory and you responded by chucking insults at me. If you happen to disagree with what I write, that's fine but are you not capable of putting forward an alternative perspective without having to resort to having a personal dig at me? You are aware that this is a place where opinions are expressed and that throwing out insults to try to undermine the credibility of the author doesn't constitute a rebuttal of the opinion expressed?
Now you're talking about throwing your toys out of the pram because my thoughts on the matter turned out to be true and you are simply not grown up enough to admit when you are wrong.

Stop being so pathetic. Unless you want to bring an end to all debate and just have everyone talk shite and agree with it all the time? Just because I don't share the same taste in slippers as Bonce doesn't mean I feel the need to constantly question his expertise in footwear or his sanity.

Well maybe the last one is up for discussion - but not an incessant diatribe.

Anyhoo Sluffster, it seems that as you are an admin I can't block your posts so I don't have to see them - but there's nothing stopping you from ignoring me unless you really are trolling me that is.

Masks actually dont do anything unless you know they fit you, (face fit testing) otherwise they are doing more harm than good.  If you get the virus on your filter/mask, your actually more likely to spread it about.  Sorry to be a boring bastard about it but it just wont work!  Good masks though, but for dust and stuff, not covid19.

Anyway,  onto day 3 of no kitchen. Did an Amazon pantry order last week, I must of been expecting Nat as I have also ordered a pack of 11 twirls too!!!

Genuinely think schools need to be closed. My daughters class had 8 kids off, and one class only had 7 kids in.

My lads Birthday too on Friday and we've had to put everything on hold. 

Don't know how much humor I can bring, I'm a right moaning get at the minute.

Had an email from Ocado this morning saying that delivery drivers will no longer be handing over the shopping, but simply leaving it on the doorstep. Nor will they accept plastic bags for return.
Not that I'm expecting to get a shop done. Just been on Ocado and I'm number 8,391 in a queue of 9,227.

boltonbonce wrote:Had an email from Ocado this morning saying that delivery drivers will no longer be handing over the shopping, but simply leaving it on the doorstep. Nor will they accept plastic bags for return.
Not that I'm expecting to get a shop done. Just been on Ocado and I'm number 8,391 in a queue of 9,227.

My 4 pot noodles aren't going to go very far are they!!!!  I've bought dog food though,  fatten them up just in case

Speaking as a veggie, next doors daffs are starting to look a bit tasty.