Donald Trump for President of the USA

MartinBWFC wrote:
For Trump it surely is, and why he's so desperate to hide behind the shield of Presidency.

wanderlust wrote:Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it infamy!

wanderlust wrote:Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it infamy!

Just watched Trump's predictably outrageous rant and I could almost hear "Oh dear" echoing around the world.
There are bad losers and then there's Trump. Sure nobody expects him to go gracefully, but his strategy is somewhere between dumb and desperate, mainly the former. Specifically, calling for the count to be stopped, losing in court and then dropping the idea when he realised that if they stop the count, Biden will be President. What he can't seem to grasp is that if they don't stop the count Biden will be President - and I imagine at some point, Mitch McConnell will attempt to "persuade" Trump not to further embarrass the GOP with a lengthy campaign of litigation from a losing position as there's no upside. 
Unless Trump can produce the smoking gun on electoral fraud but even then he'll be stigmatised. He certainly has some creative contacts though.
Can the Republicans dump Trump?

I'm not really sure they can. But now's the time to do it.

One thing is for sure - at some point Trump will make more money from books and the lecture circuit than he ever did in business. And he'll need it if Biden gets in and they hand Trump his tax bill      

Editor-in-chief @nicole_carroll on pulling the livestream of President Donald Trump's remarks tonight. pic.twitter.com/GPrQudnFjj

— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) November 6, 2020

finlaymcdanger wrote:WARNING! bad language! But it’s the best thing I’ve seen in 4 years.

https://twitter.com/michaelrapaport/status/1324144728472842242?s=21

observer wrote:
I rarely disagree with you Lusty, but I believe you are reading this incorrectly.  Biden is almost certain to win, but Trump has spent the past few months calling any election he lost as fraud.  Trump's rants are to play to his base...  remember he once said that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he wouldn't lose a vote.  Well, for once, I believe he is correct.  Trump has buried anyone who has stood in his way... mostly from the Republican party.  He has fired anyone who disagreed with him.  He has praised every dictator in the world.  He has urged his minions to take up arms and defend him from any opposition.  And they have... which makes Republicans fear his wrath and they are very careful not to tread on him now.  Certainly every legal vote should count and some Republicans will say just that... but the Republicans are counting on Trump's base for future elections.  How anyone could believe the countless lies that spew from Trump's mouth is surreal to me. Trump lives in a fantasy world, but he managed to get, at this writing, almost 70 million votes.  Which Republican who aspires power would walk away from that base?  This election is the mirror image of the Clinton loss four years ago, with the Rust Belt (Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan) flipping by small margins to Biden.  The final count may be almost identical in the reverse to Trump's first election.  But what is Trump's future?  He has a huge base who are fanatical about him, despite his lying, his support of dictators around the world, and his lack of empathy for the 230,000 plus who have died from the covid virus, or his knowledge of the virus's dangers while he denied the existence of it in the United States.  The truth is there are two Americas... with the minority ruling the majority (this will only be the second time in 8 elections with the winner of the popular vote winning the White House).  At the same time, the blue states (which have been the minority) support the red states (which have been the majority) financially.  The legacy of Donald Trump will be his appointments of unqualified conservative judges to many levels of courts... only selected by dark money who have quietly supported this campaign.  In this, they succeeded.  It is possible Trump will face lawsuits for the rest of his life.  It is possible the Trump brand will be bankrupt.  It is possible he will run again in four years.  But what is true at this time, is there will be a very divided America... one with way too many guns and conspiracy theorists who rile up his base.  It is not a formula for success.  Lastly, if there is any evidence of fraud, you only need to look at Trump's victory over Hillary Clinton, where the Russians helped Trump win via social media... a nouveau experiment that worked for him.   We have learned the emperor has no clothes, and it is very possible, instead of speaking engagements and books, he will be given prison clothes to live out his life in.  As Trump blocked the Constitution at every turn (refused subpoenas to appear before Congress and blocked his lieutenants from testifying), he effectively stopped the checks and balances the Founding Fathers had put into the government.  Now, the Senate will apparently return to Trump's enablers, and the next four years will be a stalemate... had that turned, there would have been a way to investigate the four fraudulent years that Trump ruled over.  During the Nixon years, bad things happened, but the Republican leadership said enough was enough and they strolled to the White House to tell him to resign.  These are different times, where the Republican party has aligned themselves to anything Trump has said... all wanting that huge base who followed him.  So we have a conservative base, who will overlook all of Trump's indiscretions and bluster, and would easily give him another term in office.  Can the two Americas get together again?  Not likely at this time... and until Trump's huge aura disappears, will never get together.

finlaymcdanger wrote:WARNING! bad language! But it’s the best thing I’ve seen in 4 years.

https://twitter.com/michaelrapaport/status/1324144728472842242?s=21

STOP THE COUNT pic.twitter.com/rS94knWEhO

— Southampton FC (@SouthamptonFC) November 6, 2020

Sluffy wrote:

STOP THE COUNT pic.twitter.com/rS94knWEhO

— Southampton FC (@SouthamptonFC) November 6, 2020