Donald Trump for President of the USA

Well thank goodness there’s more of us uneducated white males than there are supercilious, full of their own misguided importance ones like you then Sluffy. At least being uneducated we are blessed with common sense, something that’s sadly lacking in your life. Maybe you should just accept that not everybody thinks like you do Sluffy old lad and don’t see the need to show our ignorance by constantly abusing those with different views. The sad thing is that you just can’t see how pathetic you are. Maybe one day I’ll be able to educate you.

You could educate me in how to became a racist and a bigot I suppose but I certainly wouldn't be turning up to any of your masterclasses in them though.

Being uneducated certainly doesn't equate to being blessed with common sense - if that was the case then nobody would bother with education at all - why would they, after all common sense told us the Earth was flat and we'd fall off it if we went to far!

Being uneducated simply means that you are ripe to be exploited, easy to lie to and easily led.

You are right though, the world is full of people like you and less of people like me.

Trump no doubt will try his best no doubt to make it a world that had even less people like me in it until they are all like you.

Am I pathetic, well as I can't stop how the world is going, then I guess I am, but at least I tried in some small way to open peoples eyes to it.

There are none so blind as those that will not see, as the saying goes.

You see yet again Sluffy you just can’t help yourself painting everybody you don’t agree with as some kind of uneducated lunatic, racist or bigot. I suppose therefore you include Elon Musk in that, arguably the smartest entrepreneur in the world. If Starmer was really smart he’d be cuddling up to Elon and The Donald to encourage him to site his gigafactory’s here instead of in Europe as Thatcher did with the likes of Toyota and Honda during her term, instead of allowing idiots like Millibrain to decimate the country with his mad net zero policies. I won’t hold my breath though.

And Rishi bloody Sunack could have tried cosying up to America to have Elon’s gigafactory built here instead of Europe too!!!

You see 63 that the conservatives have been in power for the last 14 years and pretty much done fuck all for its own countries people!!!

I don't paint everybody I disagree with as being uneducated, lunatic, racist or a bigot.

For instance I don't believe I've ever actually called you uneducated, for a start.

I've correctly stated that the majority of Trump supporters are typically uneducated (and racist) - the voting statistic breakdown of yesterdays election I posted up earlier confirms that to be factual, and with you being a fanatic of Trump obviously took what I've said often as implicitly applying to you (if the cap fits...).

You, have branded yourself a racist with your remarks about Muslims and as for being a bigot...

Bigot
noun

A person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

...just read back your comments on Starmer and the Labour Party and try telling the class that you aren't a living example of that definition.  (Christ you are even banging on about Miliband and Labour in your post I'm replying too!  Fwiw Miliband has never been the Prime Minister, so I'm not even sure what you are talking about - do you mean his current government role that he's only been in for a few months?)

Do I really need to explain why everyone on here already sees you as a looney?

As for Musk!

Don't you even remember back to the start of this election when Musk wasn't even supporting Trump???




He was fully behind Ron DeSantis and even launched his candidacy.

Ron DeSantis will launch his presidential bid with Elon Musk

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-presidential-bid-campaign-elon-musk-rcna85288


You really don't understand about money and power?

Musk has joined Trump to be in effect an oligarch.

Oligarch
noun

A very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence (particularly with reference to individuals who benefited from the privatisation of state-run industries after the collapse of the Soviet Union).

He (and other fabulously wealthy others) are there to help Trump roll back all the government controls and taking advantage of deregulation make themselves even wealthier.


Mr Musk, who became a US citizen in 2002, has said that he voted almost exclusively for Democrats for decades.

But he soured on President Biden over issues including unions – Mr Musk is opposed to efforts to organise his car workers – and over a snub. He was not invited to the 2021 White House electric vehicle summit, despite Tesla's status as one of the world's largest EV manufacturers.

Under the Biden administration, Mr Musk's companies also faced a number of federal investigations over employment practices, his takeover of Twitter and claims about Tesla's autopilot feature.

In November 2023 he told a New York Times interviewer that he would not vote for Mr Biden again, but stopped short of supporting Trump, saying: "This is definitely a difficult choice here."

Mr Musk lifted the ban on the former president's Twitter account after buying the company.

And perhaps more importantly, his tenure has seen him go ever deeper into concerns that dovetail neatly with Trump's campaign: government censorship and persecution, complaints about the media, opposition to immigration, and anger at "woke" ideas.

"He craves attention and is a political chameleon," said Ryan Broderick, who writes the internet culture newsletter Garbage Day, external.

Mr Broderick said Mr Musk's online posts shifted dramatically a few years ago.

"He was tweeting neoliberal, happy-go-lucky things, and pride flags and so on, until around 2018, and the change happened pretty drastically after that," he said.

Since taking over Twitter, Mr Musk increasingly has engaged in political controversies and has spread inflammatory - and sometimes just outright fake - news stories.

During recent rioting in the UK, he engaged in a tit-for-tat with Prime Minister Keir Starmer, claiming that "civil war is inevitable" and sharing a fake post about "detainment camps" on the Falkland Islands.

He also bought into Trump’s claims - unsupported by evidence - that election fraud is endemic in the US. (funny how there were none when he first won in 2016 and none again this time either - don't you think?)

Research by the Center for Countering Digital Hate – an organisation that Mr Musk attempted to sue in a case that was thrown out earlier this year – noted that so far this year Mr Musk has tweeted false or misleading voting claims 50 times.

And he regularly interacts with fringe, far-right figures and pro-Trump accounts on his own platform, amplifying their reach.

At the same time, his Silicon Valley connections link him to Trump’s inner circle. Mr Musk was a member of the so-called PayPal mafia - stakeholders who made fortunes when the payment processor was bought for $1.5 billion and who later became prolific investors and corporate founders.

PayPal founder Peter Thiel is an influential Republican who later employed JD Vance at his venture capital firm, Mithril Capital Management, then bankrolled his Ohio Senate campaign with a $10m donation.

In March, Mr Musk met Trump at his Florida resort. A couple of months later, Mr Musk hosted an "anti-Biden" dinner party, where the guests included Mr Thiel and Rupert Murdoch, according to US news reports.

Mr Musk has donated money to both Democratic and Republican politicians in the past. But although he insists he is not donating directly to any presidential campaign, he recently co-founded a pro-Trump political action committee, America PAC.

Political action committees have the leeway to spend huge sums supporting candidates and causes - although Mr Musk has said reports that he will contribute $45m a month to the PAC are overblown.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgd08np9z1o

Don't you understand it is everything to do with power and power brings wealth.

Birds of a feather if you will.

It is all about the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer.


Maybe you are fine with that?

But if you are then ask yourself the question why most of the world are scrambling to get into Europe and the USA and places like Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia fighting to keep Russia out and Taiwan, Japan, etc, scared to death of being swallowed up by China?

A bit more about...

What Musk could gain from a Trump presidency

Mr Musk threw his support behind the Republican almost immediately after the assassination attempt on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania in July.

As one of the president-elect's most important backers, the tech billionaire donated more than $119m (£92m) to fund a Super PAC aimed at re-electing Trump.

He also spent the last weeks before election day running a get-out-the-vote effort in the battleground states, which included a daily giveaway of $1m to voters in those states. The giveaway became the subject of a legal challenge, though a judge later ruled they could go ahead.

After throwing his name, money, and platform behind Trump, Mr Musk has plenty to gain from Trump’s re-election.

The president-elect has said that in a second term, he would invite Mr Musk into his administration to eliminate government waste.

Mr Musk has referred to the potential effort as the “Department of Government Efficiency,” or DOGE, the name of a meme and cryptocurrency that he has popularised.

The businessman could also benefit from Trump's presidency through his ownership of SpaceX, which already dominates the business of sending government satellites to space.

With a close ally in the White House, Mr Musk could seek to further capitalise on those government ties.

Mr Musk has criticised rivals including Boeing for the structure of their government contracts, which he says disincentive finishing projects on budget and on time.

SpaceX has also moved into building spy satellites just as the Pentagon and American spy agencies appear poised to invest billions of dollars into them.

Mr Musk’s electric vehicle maker Tesla could meanwhile reap gains from an administration that Trump has said would be defined by “the lowest regulatory burden.”

Just last month, the US agency in charge of regulating road safety revealed it was probing Tesla’s self-driving software systems.

Mr Musk has also come under fire for allegedly seeking to block Tesla workers from unionising. The United Auto Workers filed unfair labour practice charges against both Trump and Musk after the two talked about Musk supposedly firing striking workers during a conversation on X.

Trump has also pledged to lower taxes on corporations and the wealthy.

That’s another promise Mr Musk is likely hoping he will keep.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjdl22yrrk2o


Is it dawning on you yet?

Well the Trump effect seems to already claimed its first victim.

German coalition on brink of collapse after Scholz fires key minister

The German government is made up from a three party coalition...

The crisis inside the coalition plunged Europe's largest economy into political chaos, hours after Trump's election triggered deep uncertainty about the future of the continent's economy and security.

When the coalition between the chancellor's centre-left Social Democrats, the environmentalist Greens and economically liberal FDP was formed in 2021, each party planned to spend big on its own individual core interest groups.

However, Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 sent energy prices surging, and left Germany facing a increase in defence spending - and the cost of taking in 1.5 million Ukrainian refugees.

Germany is now facing its second year without economic growth.

Scholz and his Green partners want tackle this by loosening constitutional rules on public debt to allow more spending. Lindner wants to pay for tax cuts by slashing welfare and social budgets and pushing back environmental targets.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v3r046pzzo

So the uncertainty of what Trump might do on Ukraine - will he pull out of NATO perhaps, will he stop backing Ukraine and cause an exodus of refuges from there flooding Europe, will the government fall and the pro Russian political party get elected instead - everything now is no longer certain.

Scary times and it is only one day after Trump's election victory!

Sluffy could not be more correct... nothing to add to his analysis which is spot on. Taylor has the Eras Tour and Drumpf has his Revenge Tour. All his felon friends will be among us once again.