Donald Trump for President of the USA

Whitesince63 wrote:Sluffy mkII. ZZzzzzzz🥱

Thank God we don't have a W63 mk II on here - although we had negative W63 in the shape of Wanderlust who hated everything Tory party and Donald Trump!



As for Trumps Ice Queen...

Ok I found this on Wikipedia so I can't verify the truth of it but here is what it says on there -

In the 2023 federal indictment of Trump for mishandling classified documents, a person was mentioned but not named labeled "PAC Representative", to whom Trump is alleged to have shown a classified map concerning a military operation.[19] According to ABC News, sources have said that the person was Wiles.[19][20] After the indictment, ProPublica documented an increase in payments to Wiles and the hiring of her daughter as part of a pattern of other Trump staffers who have been subpoenaed as part of an investigation into Trump receiving significant financial benefits.[21] She denied knowing that it was best practice for witnesses in an investigation concerning their boss or client to not appear like they are receiving special treatment and denied ever talking to Trump about her testimony.[21]

Following Trump's inauguration in 2017, her daughter Caroline Wiles was hired by the White House as deputy assistant to the president and director of scheduling.[25] The Washington Post noted that Caroline Wiles had an "unusual background for a senior White House official", noting that her sole educational qualification was an incomplete degree from Flagler College. A further investigation revealed that Caroline Wiles had legal issues stemming from driving while intoxicated in both 2005 and 2007.[26] Caroline Wiles ultimately left the White House in February 2017 after failing a background check by the FBI.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Wiles


White House dismisses 6 over failed background checks
By TARA PALMERI 02/16/2017 05:12 PM EST
Several White House staffers were dismissed Thursday morning after failing FBI background checks, according to sources familiar with the matter.

Some of the aides were "walked out of the building by security" on Wednesday after not passing the SF86, a Questionnaire for National Security Positions for security clearance.

Among those who won't be working at the White House was President Donald Trump’s director of scheduling, Caroline Wiles, the daughter of Susan Wiles, Trump’s Florida campaign director and former campaign manager for Governor Rick Scott. Wiles, who resigned Friday before the background check was completed, was appointed deputy assistant secretary before the inauguration in January. Two sources close to Wiles said she will get another job in Treasury.

She's among others who failed to pass the intensive background check, which includes questions on the applicant's credit score, substance use and other personal subjects.

A White House spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/02/white-house-failed-background-checks-dismissals-235112

Wiles was hired last month as deputy assistant to the president and director of scheduling. She was among six aides who couldn’t pass an intensive background check necessary to work in the White House — which requires the highest level of security clearance — according to Wiles.

The background check includes questions about credit scores, substance use and other personal subjects, according to Politico.
https://eu.jacksonville.com/story/news/2017/02/16/daughter-political-consultant-susie-wiles-resigns-white-house-post/15742956007/

What does a Deputy Assistant Director to the President (and director of scheduling) do?

Jamie Citron serves as Deputy Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement. In this role he manages a team of liaisons responsible for creating and coordinating direct dialogue between the Administration and the American public.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/ope/meet-the-team/jamie-citron/#:~:text=Jamie%20serves%20as%20Deputy%20Assistant,Administration%20and%20the%20American%20public.


Makes you think if true doesn't it?

Statistical breakdown data -

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

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FYI: if you have issues viewing some elements of a webpage in general you are viewing, I think in chrome browser you can use the toggle to turn it off the same as in Firefox otherwise you may need to disable it so you can view the page properly.

I assume that the adverts are now back on the site and we need to collect some money to block them again?

I can't see them myself as whatever ad blocker I've got must be working?

Anyway, I thought the was a good analysis of why Trump won comprehensively and the Democrats went wrong.

It's quite a long article (so W63 won't be reading it) but I think it does get to the core of things.

It starts off my identifying what the democrats saw as their voter base and then goes on to show how fearing to upset their voter base began to impact on their polices...

“If you watch a video from Hillary Clinton back in 2008 in the primaries, she talks about making sure there's wall-building, making sure that that immigrants who violate the law get deported, making sure everybody learns English,” said Kevin Marino Cabrera, a Republican commissioner in Miami-Dade County. “It's funny how far to the left [the Democrats] have gone.”

...it goes on to talk about 'Identity Politics' and how 'wokeism' merged in many peoples understanding (mine included) into it to create how wokeism is seen today...

Identity politics
Identity politics is politics based on a particular identity, such as ethnicity, race, nationality, religion, denomination, gender, sexual orientation, social background, caste, and social class.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics#:~:text=Identity%20politics%20is%20politics%20based,%2C%20caste%2C%20and%20social%20class.

Woke
Beginning in the 2010s, woke became to be used to refer to a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. Woke has also been used as shorthand for some ideas of the American Left involving identity politics and social justice, such as white privilege and reparations for slavery in the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

...Some centrist Democrats, meanwhile, have argued that the struggle to connect with voters goes beyond the economy and immigration. They point to how the Trump campaign was also able to use a cultural message as a wedge to fracture the Democratic coalition.

Among the positions that Republicans targeted in this year’s election were calls to shift funding away from law enforcement, decriminalise undocumented border-crossings and minor crimes like shoplifting, and provide greater protections for transgender Americans.

Many arose after the murder of George Floyd in 2020 and the resulting rise of the Black Lives Matter movement, as well as other efforts to advance social justice and acknowledge darker parts of American history.

Within a few years, however, some of those positions proved a liability for Democrats when trying to win over persuadable voters and keep their coalition from fraying. Harris, for example, backed away from some positions she’d taken when she first ran for president in 2019.

In the last month of the presidential campaign, the Trump team made the vice-president’s past support for taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries for federal prisoners and detained immigrants a central focus.

One advert ended with the line: “Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you.”

The Trump campaign spent more than $21m on transgender issue ads in the first half of October – about a third of their entire advertising expenditures and nearly double what they spent on spots on immigration and inflation, according to data compiled by AdImpact.

It’s the kind of investment a campaign makes if it has hard data showing an advert is moving public opinion.

After Trump’s convincing win, Congressman Seth Moulton, a moderate from Massachusetts, said his party needed to rethink its approach on cultural issues.

“Democrats spend way too much time trying not to offend anyone rather than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face,” Moulton told the New York Times., external “I have two little girls, I don’t want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but as a Democrat I’m supposed to be afraid to say that.”

The full article is here if anyone wants to read it -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mzl7zygpmo

Also I found this when reading around the article, I don't know how true it is but if it is it could give another reason why Musk suddenly swung behind Trump  (apparently Musk has fathered 12 children too - again I don't know how true that is?)

US' 'woke culture' exposes deep societal divisions, intensifying debates on identity politics and social justice
By Global Times
Published: Aug 06, 2024 12:00 AM

"I lost my son, essentially," American tech mogul Elon Musk said in an interview on July 22. He said in the interview that he was "tricked" into agreeing to trans-related medical treatment. The changes in his son led Musk to despise the "woke culture." Many right-wing individuals and Republicans in America share Musk's views on the so-called "woke culture," but for many left-wing individuals and Democrats, "woke culture" is seen as a progressive ideology. "Woke culture" has evolved into a cultural conflict surrounding identity politics in America, and this ideology has also spread to Europe, stirring up the political and social landscape.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202408/1317450.shtml

This is exactly what I’ve been saying for years but you have constantly denied it and labelled me a bigot, a racist, a transphobe, a climate denier and many other things. Political parties on the left have been pandering to micro groups for years to the detriment of the majority, common sense has been replaced by nonsense and eventually it permeated right leaning politicians who were afraid to voice concerns or views for fear of being ridiculed by the equally infiltrated Mass Media. Although Trumps is the most publicised the move back to common sense and centre right policies has been growing for years always labelled as populists. Trumps victory in one swoop hopefully shows that normal people are sick of these labels and their ridiculous outcome. 

The vast majority of people in developed countries are intelligent, generous, sensible and accommodating but have been driven to despair by the liberal left but times they are a changing all because one man has brushed the crap aside and given decent people their voice back. Labour never won the election, the right threw it away and hopefully will now unite to equally rid us of all these idiots inflicting their pronouns and trans ideology on us and more especially our kids. There’s a huge amount of work to do to cleanse our schools, universities and institutions of these ills and let’s be honest it won’t happen under this excuse for a government but we can at least start the move back to a common sense world where views can be expressed and discussed fairly and politely without fear of ridicule or prosecution.

You don't get it do you?

I'll try to make it easy for you.

There is the real world - people wanting a better life for themselves - migrants seeking safety from war and persecution or an economic life away from the poverty that faces them if they stay where they are.

Also climate change - it is real - it is happening - we KNOW why - it is the burning of fossil fuels.

There is our personal world - where people are concerned about themselves - cost of living, more immigrants resulting in greater demand on the NHS, housing, schools, social services, etc.

The there is Minority issues - transgender, gay lib, etc.


There are three levels - the first is about staying alive, the second and (should be_ of lesser important is our own standard of living and the last level is those who have been left behind because of their colour, sexuality, illness, disability, etc.

Right hold that thought for now.

Overlying all that is how we function as a society and we do that by being led by the most powerful amongst us - it used to be the warlords, or the conquering arms led by kings but now it is led in the west with politics and politicians - we know it as democracy.

Politics as I oft tell you has just two rules - and it is all about power - rule 1, do all you can to win it, rule 2, do all you can to keep it thereafter.


In my lifetime this system as worked simply because there was enough honesty and integrity to 'play fair', to broadly tell the truth, have a generally free and truthful press/media, to have an impartial judiciary, and probably most importantly there was no social media and paid influencers.

Well that has now changed and here is how the system now works.

Malicious actors buy the politicians - look for instance how Russia has interfered in the last month in the elections in Moldova and Georgia.

In the UK and USA, corporate blocks such as the tobacco industry, or the oil industry fund the 'policy' formulating groups to look kindly on 'their' best interests and fund the politicians who will look after their interests in government.

(Why do you thing Elon Musk - who wasn't even supporting Trump just two years ago - is now going to be his righthand man - he's now even more centre stage and important than JD Vance is).

So how do politicians win power.

Easy, they scare people and tell lies.

There is NO global warming, we need to close the boarders, there are no-go Muslin areas in the UK, the main stream media is not to be believed - all outright lies.

We are all worse off than 4 years ago because of Biden - NO we are not!

We are all worse off than 4 years ago because of the massive financial consequences resulting from Covid (when Trump was the President) and because of Russia invading Ukraine and the cost of energy going through the roof!

People are fed the propaganda, they get their news from social media, the Joe Rogan's and the Tucker Carlson's, they watch right wing propaganda on so call 'News' Stations such as Fox and GB News.

They are fed the fear of all these immigrants and moving to green energy, they are brainwashed into how massive woke has become, they are told Biden made them poorer.

None of this is true!

Yes there are always some bad persons in any random group of people but be honest how many refuges arriving on the boats, do we know of have done anything really bad (the Southport killer was born in Wales for instance).

Do we close our boarders to 10,000 people who need help because there may be say 200 bad ones yet 9,800 good ones needing it?

As for global warming, net zero, windmills and all the rest of it - deny it you want, tell us we mustn't do it because China and India won't play ball - but it IS still going to happen because the 'science' doesn't lie.


As for wokeism - I've said many times that it's all bollocks - taking the knee (that stopped racism didn't it!), being binary or pronouns of it/they - what utter bollocks (if you want to shag blokes and girls or stick a stupid label on yourself that's up to you but why the fuck should I care?). Why is anyone worried about wokeism, it's only the loonies who do it - stop talking about it and most of it will simply fade away just like no one takes the knee anymore or seeks to defund the police.

Equality though is an entirely different thing - everyone should be given an equal chances and be treated equally - what is wrong with that concept?


If you can't see by now that you are being played as an idiot, well nothing I can do about that.

And that really was what the article and I was saying - people do put themselves first and are happy to throw those less fortunate than themselves under the bus - too bad if you want to escape from violence and poverty, you aren't getting in here, who cares if the planet will blow up in 80 years, I won't be around, I ain't bothered about democracy I want to live in a controlled country like Russia and China, I want to be zombified like them.

Ok you do that, I can't stop you - but it certainly isn't what I want for myself, my daughter and her kids (if she ever gets round to making me a grandfather).

Lies and corruption has won.

As a kind of example to what I've wrote above look at who is most likely to be the next leader of the Senate...

Let's first set the scene -

Trump weighs in on Senate leadership race
published at 19:55 10 November
Sam Cabral
Reporting from Washington DC

Donald Trump has weighed in on the horse race over who will lead the new Republican majority in the Senate.

John Cornyn of Texas, John Thune of South Dakota and Rick Scott of Florida are considered to be the top contenders to replace Kentucky's Mitch McConnell, who will step away from the post after nearly two decades.

Though Trump did not endorse any of the men, he wrote on X that "any Republican Senator seeking the coveted LEADERSHIP position in the United States Senate must agree to Recess Appointments (in the Senate!), without which we will not be able to get people confirmed in a timely manner."

Recess appointments allow the US president to fill judicial vacancies while the Senate is on break.

Trump said that positions needed to be "filled IMMEDIATELY", and claimed that Democrats "are looking to ram through their Judges as the Republicans fight over Leadership".

Billionaire ally Elon Musk agreed with the president-elect in a post of his own, shared less than a minute after Trump's post.

Scott, who was on Fox News earlier talking up his resume, also quickly replied: "I will do whatever it takes to get your nominations through as quickly as possible".

On Saturday, Cornyn pledged that - if elected leader - Republicans' "first order of business" would be to confirm Trump’s new cabinet, with the Senate holding extended sessions if necessary.


Florida Senator Rick Scott emerges as favourite to be Senate majority leader
published at 01:53
Sam Cabral
Reporting from Washington DC

Wednesday will see the election of a new Republican leader in the US Senate - where the party now holds a majority. And though we're still days away from those secret ballots being cast, a clear frontrunner has begun to emerge.

Florida Senator Rick Scott, who was comfortably re-elected to another six-year term on Tuesday, launched a renegade bid against his colleagues, John Cornyn of Texas and John Thune of South Dakota.

Neither of the Johns are trusted by the Trump camp and many, from grassroots supporters to some of the president-elect's closest allies, are now publicly endorsing Scott.

"The nation delivered a mandate on Tuesday. They want @realdonaldtrump's America First agenda, and they want it now," Alabama's Tommy Tuberville wrote on X, one of at least five of Scott's Senate colleagues to back him.

Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson mocked Cornyn as "an angry liberal", while billionaire Elon Musk ridiculed Thune as "the top choice of Democrats".

"Without Rick Scott, the entire Trump reform agenda wobbly," wrote Robert F Kennedy Jr.

It is just one of the many signs of how rapidly the Trump wing is moving to assert its dominance as 2025 approaches.


So in a matter of just a few hours all the big guns such as Tucker Carlson (exFox News main anchor) Musk and RF Kennedy - all three unelected - have basically told the ELECTED Senators who to vote for.

Where is the democracy?

Why even bother having elections anymore?

They become a veneer of attempting to show legitimacy when anyone can see it is anything but.

And why am I making a fuss about this, well look at who Rick Scott is...

First though note this...

Remember Susie Wiles?

I wrote about her here...

https://boltonnuts.forumotion.co.uk/t21093p720-donald-trump-for-president-of-the-usa#465146

...her connection with Scott -

In the 2010 Florida gubernatorial election, Wiles was credited with helping elect businessman Rick Scott. Considered an "outsider" at the time, Scott previously had few connections with the Florida Republican Party.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Wiles


So what do we know about Scott?

Well the following is about the company he owned!

Fraud investigation and settlement

On March 19, 1997, investigators from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service, and the Department of Health and Human Services served search warrants at Columbia/HCA facilities in El Paso and on dozens of doctors with suspected ties to the company.[41] Eight days after the initial raid, Scott signed his last SEC report as a hospital executive. Four months later, the board of directors pressured him to resign as chairman and CEO.[42] He was succeeded by Thomas F. Frist Jr.[43] Scott was paid $9.88 million in a settlement, and left owning 10 million shares of stock then worth more than $350 million.[44][45][46] The directors had been warned in the company's annual public reports to stockholders that incentives Columbia/HCA offered doctors could run afoul of a federal anti-kickback law passed in order to limit or eliminate instances of conflicts of interest in Medicare and Medicaid.[43]

During Scott's 2000 deposition, he pleaded the Fifth Amendment 75 times.[47] In settlements reached in 2000 and 2002, Columbia/HCA pleaded guilty to 14 felonies and agreed to a $600+ million fine in what was at the time the largest health care fraud settlement in U.S. history. Columbia/HCA admitted systematically overcharging the government by claiming marketing costs as reimbursable, by striking illegal deals with home care agencies, and by filing false data about use of hospital space. It also admitted to fraudulently billing Medicare and other health programs by inflating the seriousness of diagnoses and to giving doctors partnerships in company hospitals as a kickback for the doctors referring patients to HCA. It filed false cost reports, fraudulently billed Medicare for home health care workers, and paid kickbacks in the sale of home health agencies and to doctors to refer patients. In addition, it gave doctors "loans" never intending to be repaid, free rent, free office furniture, and free drugs from hospital pharmacies.[48][8]

In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the United States government $631 million, plus interest, and $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[49] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle; at the time, this was the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history.[50][51]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Scott


He 'systematically overcharged the government' and now he's one of the most powerful men to control the government's money!

If this was a film it would flop as being totally unbelievable but as the saying goes, power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely!

But that's alright because they will put an end to wokeism...

And you think I’m the brainwashed one. Pointless trying to make you see reason but if you genuinely believe all that garbage you’ve just written then more fool you. I just think you’re a real saddo.

Whitesince63 wrote:And you think I’m the brainwashed one. Pointless trying to make you see reason but if you genuinely believe all that garbage you’ve just written then more fool you. I just think you’re a real saddo.

You don't even believe in the fact the global warming is due to us humans burning fossil fuel, despite the science proving it beyond doubt.

Why don't you believe that, because the shit you read read is all right wing propaganda, financed by those who own the fossil fuels we continue to burn!

God if you believe I'm brainwashed then at least I have a brain to be washed.

Better than having no brain at all...


What is climate change? A really simple guide

How are humans causing climate change?
The climate has changed naturally throughout the Earth's history. But natural causes cannot explain the particularly rapid warming seen over the last century, according to the UN's climate body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

This warming has been caused by human activities, mainly the widespread use of fossil fuels - coal, oil and gas - in homes, factories and transport systems.

When fossil fuels burn, they release greenhouse gases - mostly carbon dioxide (CO2). This CO2 acts like a blanket, trapping extra energy in the atmosphere near the Earth's surface. This causes the planet to heat up.

Since the start of the Industrial Revolution - when humans started burning large amounts of fossil fuels - the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has risen by about 50%, external, far above levels seen in the Earth's recent history.

The CO2 released from burning fossil fuels, external has a distinctive chemical fingerprint. This matches the type of CO2 increasingly found in the atmosphere.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24021772


How do we know the build-up of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is caused by humans?

The most basic reason is that fossil fuels—the result of millions of years of plant growth—are the only source of carbon dioxide large enough to raise atmospheric carbon dioxide amounts as high and as quickly as they have risen. The increase between the year 1800 and today is 70% larger than the increase that occurred when Earth climbed out of the last ice age between 17,500 and 11,500 years ago, and it occurred 100-200 times faster.

In addition, fossil fuels are the only source of carbon consistent with the chemical fingerprint of the carbon present in today’s atmosphere. That analysis indicates it must be coming from terrestrial plant matter, and it must be very, very old. These and other lines of evidence leave no doubt that fossil fuels are the primary source of the carbon dioxide building up in Earth’s atmosphere.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/how-do-we-know-build-carbon-dioxide-atmosphere-caused-humans


The Technical Details: Chemistry
Composition of an Atom

Isotopes of Carbon


https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/isotopes/chemistry.html

And if you want to read the technical details (which you won't of course...) -

More detail

During all of the cycles between ice ages and warm periods over the past million years, atmospheric carbon dioxide never climbed higher than 300 parts per million. At the end of the last ice age around 20,000 years ago, it was 280 ppm. Today it is close to 420 ppm. The increase between the year 1800 and today is 70% larger than the increase that occurred when Earth climbed out of the last ice age between 17,500 and 11,500 years ago, and it occurred 100-200 times faster. Only fossil fuels—which are the remains of millions of years of carbon uptake by plants—contain enough carbon to produce such a massive change in such a short time.


Atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) in parts per million (ppm) for the past 800,000 years based on ice-core data (light purple line) compared to 2022 concentration (bright purple dot). The peaks and valleys in the line show ice ages (low CO2) and warmer interglacials (higher CO2). Throughout that time, CO2 was never higher than 300 ppm (light purple dot, between 300,000 and 400,000 years ago). The increase over the last 60 years is 100 times faster than previous natural increases. In fact, on the geologic time scale, the increase from the end of the last ice age to the present (dashed purple line) looks virtually instantaneous. Graph by NOAA Climate.gov based on data from Lüthi, et al., 2008, via NOAA NCEI Paleoclimatology Program.

In addition, only fossil fuels are consistent with the isotopic fingerprint of the carbon in today’s atmosphere. Different kinds of carbon-containing material have different relative amounts of “light” carbon-12, “heavy” carbon-13, and radioactive carbon-14. Plant matter is enriched in carbon-12, because its lighter weight is more readily used by plants during photosynthesis. Volcanic emissions are enriched in carbon-13. The ratio of carbon-13 to carbon-12 in the atmosphere and the ocean are roughly the same. Since carbon-14 is radioactive, it decays predictably over time. Young organic matter has more carbon-14 than older organic matter, and fossil fuels have no measurable carbon-14 at all.

As carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere have risen over the past century or more, the ratio of carbon-13 to carbon-12 has fallen, which means that the source of the extra carbon dioxide must be enriched in "light" carbon-12. Meanwhile, the relative amount of carbon-14—radioactive carbon—has declined. The record of carbon-14 in the atmosphere is complicated by nuclear bomb testing after 1950, which doubled the amount of radioactive carbon in the atmosphere. After the nuclear test ban treaty in 1963, the excess atmospheric carbon-14 began to decline as it dispersed into the oceans and the land biosphere.

In the last four decades, however, the decline of carbon-14 has been noticeably faster than can be explained by continuing dispersal of the bomb-related carbon-14. This faster decline is driven by the addition to the atmosphere of huge amounts of carbon dioxide from a source with no carbon-14. As this carbon dioxide enters the atmosphere, it dilutes the ratio of 14-carbon dioxide (i.e., carbon dioxide containing a carbon-14 atom) to total carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

Taken together, then, we are looking for a source of carbon dioxide that comes from terrestrial plants (because they are depleted in "heavy" carbon-13), is so old that any carbon-14 it once contained has decayed to non-detectable levels, and is capable of creating a pulse of carbon dioxide that is larger and faster than anything that’s occurred in at least the past million years. Only fossil fuels meet all those criteria.

Sluffy, I don’t give a shite about fossil fuels because as I’ve pointed out to you on numerous occasions it makes zero difference what I, you or Millibrain does as long as the major polluters continue to ignore the situation you constantly bleat on about. The UK at great damage to our economy has reduced emissions more than any other country in the world yet the CO2 levels overall remains the same. We pay more for our electricity than any other developed country in the world yet this bird brained government want to go further with their ridiculous and damaging net zero blindness. Neither the Chinese, Russians nor the Indians have “committed” to reduce emissions in the line with the farce that is the Paris agreement just an attempt by bloody 2060 which we all know really means they’ll continue to completely ignore it. 

Donald will now very likely remove the USA from the accord so whether you like it or not any attempts we make by building windmills and solar farms will be rendered entirely pointless. Now you can wax on as much as you like about how terrible it is but the fact is that finally the West, other than our Labour lot of course, have finally accepted that it’s pointless too. Only Starmer has attended the recent COP meeting still spouting his rubbish about pushing ahead at huge expense with his net zero farce. So, either all the leaders of these polluting nations are thicko’s or don’t care about their kids or grandkids or they know something you don’t know. Either way we can’t change it so if you can’t beat em join em and continue drilling in the North Sea and get fracking in the areas known to be sitting on the vast resources of gas we have in abundance and stop the virtue signalling.

My point above was actually about being led by the facts rather than being brainwashed like you are with right wing lies.

As for global warming, it is already too late for the planet, we've already damaged it for those who will be alive at the turn of the century, all the Paris Accord is about was to minimise what we will have done, and it's already clear we aren't even going to achieve that.

All the rest I posted was an attempt to open your eyes to the propaganda about global warming being some sort of left wing lunacy rather than being the science of what is actually happening and why it is.

As Forrest Gump says, 'stupid is what stupid does' and therefore I can't see anyone more fitting to be the modern day Nero equivalent than you.

So signing off as the Romans did, here is Lurcio...

Stuffy, I would label you as thick or stupid if I thought you were but I know you’re not which makes it all the more disappointing that otherwise intelligent people like you can be so easily taken in. The “facts” you quote are largely the assumption reached by a number of “experts who all gleefully add the same information into their very expensive computers. Hardly surprising then that they come up with the same conclusions. As you say and as I’ve pointed out so many times, if they’re right the damage is done and we can’t now undo it so surely better to learn how to cope if it’s as bad as they say. The big emitters are not going to change so whatever we do is totally irrelevant but we do still have time to change course and continue with oil and gas to try and recover our industries. Bankrupting ourselves given the situation is utterly stupid. As I’ve always said I have no problem moving to renewables gradually though for me wind and solar aren’t it and cause too much damage and loss. Far better to wait until we can move to less disruptive options and invest the money in that. The ludicrous Labour Target of moving to 81% carbon reduction is both insane and unachievable yet they plough on wasting money and destroying the country. Pure madness which one day from your ivory tower you may realise?