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The facts I wrote are largely assumptions???
And you aren't a global warming denier!
Did you not read the 'simple' explanation above, or did you read it and simply didn't understand it because the 'facts' are just that FACTS - they are taken from frozen core samples of the air condition from 800,000 years ago through to actual air readings from modern day, right up to the present.
Christ with a little bit of training you could go out and check the readings yourself - just pop round to one of the poles (either will do) drill yourself some bore holes, do the science and see if your readings are any different from anyone else's, whether they be British, American, Indian, Chinese, Russian or any other country on the planet.
Then go and take your findings to Donald, or Modi, or Putin, or Xi, etc and tell them to stop drilling - and what do you think they will do?
That is the difference between being a scientist with facts and a politician with power - one is bothered about the future and the other about staying in power today.
The Paris Accord was all about easing everyone's foot off the accelerator as we speed towards the edge of the cliff, in order that we have enough breaking distance left before we go flying off it but you can only do that if you care about the future and have the power (or the will) to put your foot on the brakes.
Politian's in the west want to win votes, so the likes of Trump deny the science - to win the votes and get into power - first rule of politics, being gain power by any means and that includes lying to the voters if the lie will help you to win (remember Boris bus slogan during the Brexit campaign for instance?).
Dictators like Putin and Xi don't have to lie but their issue is global politics (read that as global power) neither one care about their own people now - let alone those 70 or 80 years into the future - burning fossil fuel drives their economies to compete with America and neither will take their foot off the gas (pun intended) until they become the world's most dominant power - that's why the likes of Putin and Xi and all the other dictators Gadhafi, Saddam Hussein, etc, are brutal in keeping power because if they ever lose it like Gadhafi and Saddam they are soon dead.
Players like Modi and Erdogan (Turkey) play both sides of the fence, to keep themselves in power politically (neither will be killed if they lose it - but both want to keep it for as long as they can).
Those of us like Biden, Starmer and others who do understand what the future will be, face political deniers such as Trump, telling their lies - that people like you believe - and take their chances at the ballot box.
Trump won because he scared people into voting for him by telling them he can make them rich again by drill baby, drill (their first concern) and shut the borders (their second concern).
I am better off if we did plunder the North Sea again and send everyone back to bongo bongo land or wherever they came from but what will my daughter be facing in another 30 years time, when weather is getting wilder and people are fleeing their countries in droves to get into ours, simply because everybody is fighting each other just to survive the wars, famine, droughts, slavery, etc in theirs?
I might be 'assuming' the last paragraph but the one thing I'm not assuming is the science and the facts (or about how the world works).
And if people are flooding into the Europe and America now, then what do you think they might be doing in 30, 40, 50 years time when things have got a whole lot worse for them.
Do you think they will simply stop where they are?
Today's quick fix (burn more fossil fuel and send people back to where they are fleeing from) is only storing up bigger problems down the line.
You shouldn't need to have a brain like Einstein to be able to understand that.
It's blatantly obvious isn't it?
And you aren't a global warming denier!
Did you not read the 'simple' explanation above, or did you read it and simply didn't understand it because the 'facts' are just that FACTS - they are taken from frozen core samples of the air condition from 800,000 years ago through to actual air readings from modern day, right up to the present.
Christ with a little bit of training you could go out and check the readings yourself - just pop round to one of the poles (either will do) drill yourself some bore holes, do the science and see if your readings are any different from anyone else's, whether they be British, American, Indian, Chinese, Russian or any other country on the planet.
Then go and take your findings to Donald, or Modi, or Putin, or Xi, etc and tell them to stop drilling - and what do you think they will do?
That is the difference between being a scientist with facts and a politician with power - one is bothered about the future and the other about staying in power today.
The Paris Accord was all about easing everyone's foot off the accelerator as we speed towards the edge of the cliff, in order that we have enough breaking distance left before we go flying off it but you can only do that if you care about the future and have the power (or the will) to put your foot on the brakes.
Politian's in the west want to win votes, so the likes of Trump deny the science - to win the votes and get into power - first rule of politics, being gain power by any means and that includes lying to the voters if the lie will help you to win (remember Boris bus slogan during the Brexit campaign for instance?).
Dictators like Putin and Xi don't have to lie but their issue is global politics (read that as global power) neither one care about their own people now - let alone those 70 or 80 years into the future - burning fossil fuel drives their economies to compete with America and neither will take their foot off the gas (pun intended) until they become the world's most dominant power - that's why the likes of Putin and Xi and all the other dictators Gadhafi, Saddam Hussein, etc, are brutal in keeping power because if they ever lose it like Gadhafi and Saddam they are soon dead.
Players like Modi and Erdogan (Turkey) play both sides of the fence, to keep themselves in power politically (neither will be killed if they lose it - but both want to keep it for as long as they can).
Those of us like Biden, Starmer and others who do understand what the future will be, face political deniers such as Trump, telling their lies - that people like you believe - and take their chances at the ballot box.
Trump won because he scared people into voting for him by telling them he can make them rich again by drill baby, drill (their first concern) and shut the borders (their second concern).
I am better off if we did plunder the North Sea again and send everyone back to bongo bongo land or wherever they came from but what will my daughter be facing in another 30 years time, when weather is getting wilder and people are fleeing their countries in droves to get into ours, simply because everybody is fighting each other just to survive the wars, famine, droughts, slavery, etc in theirs?
I might be 'assuming' the last paragraph but the one thing I'm not assuming is the science and the facts (or about how the world works).
And if people are flooding into the Europe and America now, then what do you think they might be doing in 30, 40, 50 years time when things have got a whole lot worse for them.
Do you think they will simply stop where they are?
Today's quick fix (burn more fossil fuel and send people back to where they are fleeing from) is only storing up bigger problems down the line.
You shouldn't need to have a brain like Einstein to be able to understand that.
It's blatantly obvious isn't it?
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