If Jaaskelainen has been our best ever keeper who has been the second best?

Norpig wrote:I think you are taking this too literally Sluffy, it's all subjective but all you can do is look at their respective records in their eras and judge from that. Not sure how you can say someone like Matthews would be judged as better just because they play now and Hopkinson probably couldn't?

Norpig wrote:I highly doubt Doidge would have bought a house in the area if he or his agent had even the smallest inkling he wouldn't be signed permanently in January.

Sluffy wrote:

Doidge was definitely going to be bought - there would have been a contract signed to the effect.

He was in no different position to the one Matthews was in at the time.

Clearly Eddie Davies was going to be the backstop position to fund the completion of the transfers if need be but sadly he unexpectedly died just a few weeks after the initial deals were struck.

The transfers were to be completed on the 1st January but clearly there were no monies to do so but there was a payment due within a week or so from the EFL and Anderson clearly let both clubs be aware that that was the means of how the deals would be concluded - indeed Vince himself even said initially that it wasn't an issue to wait whilst things were sorted.

However just a couple of days later he went public blasting Anderson - so something obviously changed in those two or three days!

The weird thing that came out at that time was Vince saying he was producing the T-shirts 'No Ken do' with all proceeds going to the BWFC Supporters Trust???

Why?

For what reason?

No smoke without fire.

It seems a completely random thing to do unless of course there had been some contact between the two leading up to his announcement.

The net result was that Norwich and the Matthews deal went smoothly and Vince was paid the wages for Doidge from the EFL payment but by that time had hoicked Doidge back from the £1m deal only to sell him at a half million loss at the end of the season to Hibs.

All seems rather strange when both parties Anderson and Vince knew they were contractually obliged to the transfer and both knew that no matter what the money would be paid with it being a 'footballing creditor' requirement just a week or so later than planned from the scheduled EFL payment.

Seems to me someone whispered in to Vince's ear.

I wonder who and what their reasons might have been?

Answers on a postcard.

Sluffy wrote:When you rank people you do it in order, best first, next best second and so on - yes?

Ten Bobsworth wrote:Would Eddie really have coughed up yet again, Sluffy? He'd gone the extra mile time without number but I'm not sure he would have done on this occasion, if he had still been alive.

Ten Bobsworth wrote:
I know that football players are not all financially astute but if they hadn't the slightest inkling that the money might not be there in January, they must have been the dimmest dimwits in Dimland. How many clues did they need?

Btw did Doidge buy a house or did he just look around?

T.R.O.Y. wrote:

All I'm asking is - how do you know that your version of what was agreed in the deal vs FGR's version is the accurate one?

Your version - Bolton agreed to pay on the condition they got investment - which never came so couldn't Doidge 'transfer' cancelled, presumably as agreed at the outset in a situation of no investment.

Vince's version - Bolton failed to make agreed payments for Doidge.

T.R.O.Y. wrote:

Unsure if you missed this one Bob?

Norpig wrote:
As far as i remember yes he had bought a house.

Ten Bobsworth wrote:
Not a condition, just the basic fact that BWFC was going into admin without new money and if Vince and Doidge's agent hadn't cottoned on to that they were both numpties.

Sluffy wrote:

I don't know obviously but there clearly had been some help from Eddie to Anderson in the past and when we signed Doidge they both must have known what the clubs financial position was at the time.

Eddie had continually bailed the club out and I guess the question would have been would he had not done so again?

Clearly his Trust (EDT) and his family have honoured his legacy of the club by simply not liquidating it to get their money back but rather deferring when they are likely to get it back by keeping the club alive and securing the debt on the clubs new owners instead.

Maybe things had gone sour between the two by then but as I say they both would have known what the financial position of the club was and my view fwiw is that I believe Eddie would have put his hand in his pocket once more if he had to do.

The irony of all this though is that Vince would have been paid directly by the EFL themselves from the payment scheduled to all clubs just a week or so after the original settlement between Bolton and FGR was due and as it happens there wasn't actually a need at that time (maybe a few weeks down the line though there might well of been!) for Eddie to put his money in at all!

All water under the bridge now, Anderson has gone, the club still exists thanks largely to FV wanting it to be and Eddie's legacy of the millions he put into it and his family still not taken it all out yet - even though they could and Doidge, through no fault of his own, turning up trumps for himself up in Scotland.

The stink if any was why did Vince do a U-turn (which was quite clearly not necessary - the money was definitely going to be there just a week later) and how and why did the ST's name suddenly crop up for no apparent reason slap bang in the middle of his U-turn?

Time to move on though really.

T.R.O.Y. wrote:If FGR had been promised payments they never received, does that not make them the victim here?

T.R.O.Y. wrote:Can only imagine what Sluffy has said to you about me in private.

Sluffy wrote:

I've said nothing, why would I?

If I've got something to say, I'll say it to someone's face - and in the case of a forum like here, in public in a post.

Whatever view Bob has formed of you is from your posts on here and my comments about them.