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How is the Tory Government Doing?

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861How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Tue Oct 17 2023, 21:42

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Breadman wrote:Just popped in to say I met Johnny in real life for the first time today & we had a good old laugh about all the time we wasted years ago on this site arguing with attention-seeking dickheads...and I see that absolutely nothing has changed.

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If I still had five fingers, I'd put two of them up.
Attention seeking dickheads?
How dare you! And Johnny, Johnny, Johnny.

862How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Tue Oct 17 2023, 21:58

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

lol!

863How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Wed Oct 18 2023, 07:53

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Come back and join us Breaders, we need you! Sluffy is a raving loony and Bob is just a fuckwit. I'm hanging by my fingertips on here, if Boncey went that would be the end of this for me.

864How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Wed Oct 18 2023, 08:03

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Norpig wrote:Come back and join us Breaders, we need you! Sluffy is a raving loony and Bob is just a fuckwit. I'm hanging by my fingertips on here, if Boncey went that would be the end of this for me.
Me going nowhere. They don't have enough spray.

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865How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Wed Oct 18 2023, 08:19

Ten Bobsworth


Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Norpig wrote:Come back and join us Breaders, we need you! Sluffy is a raving loony and Bob is just a fuckwit. I'm hanging by my fingertips on here, if Boncey went that would be the end of this for me.
You're too efferfuvious altogether, Walter.

Have you been?




866How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Wed Oct 18 2023, 08:27

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Big star was Walter. He was in A Hard Day's Night.

The fifth Beatle?

867How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Wed Oct 18 2023, 09:16

Ten Bobsworth


Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

boltonbonce wrote:Big star was Walter. He was in A Hard Day's Night.

The fifth Beatle?
I didn't see it, Boncey. I never was a big Beatles fan but didn't Walter become a waiter in A Hard Days Night?

868How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Wed Oct 18 2023, 11:37

Whitesince63


El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

boltonbonce wrote:
Me going nowhere. They don't have enough spray.

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How brilliant was that series? As they say, they don’t make them like that any more but where really would you find characters like Hilda Baker and Jimmy Jewel? Mind you they’d probably find some reason to cancel it in todays wokey world?

Sorry TenBob clicked on the wrong copy!! 🙁

869How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Thu Oct 19 2023, 21:59

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

870How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Thu Oct 19 2023, 22:05

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Total Scumbags!

871How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Thu Oct 19 2023, 22:25

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I'm now seeing ads for butt plugs.

872How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Thu Oct 19 2023, 22:33

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:I'm now seeing ads for butt plugs.
Are you sure it's not a reflection?

873How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Thu Oct 19 2023, 22:42

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

boltonbonce wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:I'm now seeing ads for butt plugs.
Are you sure it's not a reflection?

lol!

874How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Thu Oct 19 2023, 22:56

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Before the usual suspects become batshit crazy again you really need to understand what the story is - NOT WHAT THE HEADLINE MAKES YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE.

In very simple terms Rishi's wife is more or less similar to a a Dragon off Dragon's Den, in that she has a pot of money to invest on small companies / start ups, that are needing a cash input to expand and grow.

She like Deborah Meaden and Peter Jones, etc, have chucked in a wodge of cash in return for shares in the company - that's basically as far as her involvement goes - of course she wants the companies to do well as then her share will increase in value but if they don't and go bust she will lose it all.

The companies are toodling along then Covid strikes, everything shuts down.

The government realises that it has to do something to keep the companies/the whole economy on life support, to stop them from going bust and throwing all their employees out of work and on to benefits, so comes up with a variety of ways (paying furloughs for instance) to do so, one of which is specialised to these small companies /start ups.

Let's be frank here, this particular scheme was viewed by the civil servants that had to run it as a bad investment but the government went ahead with it non the less - one of the beneficiaries from this particular scheme was non other than BWFC ffs!!!

So it just so happens that Rishi's wife hadn't actually done anything other than what Meaden and Jones and hundreds of other private investors do.  She (and Meaden, Jones, etc) had no idea Covid was going to come when they got their shares in these companies, had no idea the government would set up such as schemed (highly flawed!) to keep them alive during Covid, and who were not the ones who applied for the loans, the management teams of these companies would be the ones who applied for the loans NOT MRS RISHI (nor Meaden, or Jones - you get the picture?)

The article makes out it was all a big scam - it simply wasn't.

The bare facts are no doubt correct Mrs Rishi has shares in companies that claimed these government loans but I own shares in companies that got government loans too - thousands of people will have had.

Strangely enough Rowena Mason (Guardian Whitehall Editor and the person who wrote the article) didn't actually link to the newspaper article in her tweet about it - in fact she never even tweeted about her 'exclusive' at all, I wonder why???

Could it be that she didn't agree with the headline it was given?

Once you read the article it paints a completely different story and context than the headline screamed???

Article here -

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/19/sunaks-covid-startup-fund-invested-nearly-2m-in-firms-linked-to-his-wife#:~:text=Rishi%20Sunak's%20controversial%20fund%20to,wife%2C%20Guardian%20analysis%20has%20found.

875How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Thu Oct 19 2023, 23:38

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin

And thinking about it further, the scheme was 'matched' funded, meaning to get the loan you had to put up a similar sum yourself, so if the companies Mrs Rishi had shares in to the value of £2m then Mrs Rishi and the other shareholders of those companies had to put in £2m more of their own monies themselves to get it.

Hardly such a massive scam if you have to put in a further £2m of your own money plus pay the government back the £2m they LOANED you when you need to sell the company to get the money in it you invested in the first place.

BWFC (or rather FV) got £2.5m of tax payers money (iirc?) which is half a million more than what Mrs Rishi did and which all the anti-Tory nutjobs want to string her up for...!!!

876How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Fri Oct 20 2023, 09:59

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

877How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Fri Oct 20 2023, 10:03

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

878How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Fri Oct 20 2023, 10:11

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Come on Sunak get that General Election called now, you know your time is up.

879How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Fri Oct 20 2023, 11:15

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Casket-grave

880How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Empty Re: How is the Tory Government Doing? Fri Oct 20 2023, 12:51

Whitesince63


El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

boltonbonce wrote:How is the Tory Government Doing? - Page 44 Casket-grave
:rofl:

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