Are You Too Good To Shelf Stack?

Taking a look around Bolton, i think if it would be better putting their work experience schemes into tidying some of the town up.
Rather than stacking shelves, then at least the Local area would benefit.

Won't happen i know, there would be too many issues to sort out... just a thought.

Mr Magoo wrote:

Banks of the Croal wrote:

Mr Magoo wrote:I would do anything, to put food on the table for my family.

What!!! even bend down in the showers

You wish you groomer.

Nah, i'd sooner fuck a bag of Worms.

Each to there own,

Live and let live... that's what i always say.

The woman who took this dreadful government to court had worked in retail before.

This 'Work experience' title is nonsense. What could she possibly learn by working at Poundland.

She was not one of the (very few) scroungers but was working in a job she loved and one that would improve her long term prospects in that area.

Poundland got her services free of charge.

I wonder what other jobs there are for the unemployed to gain experience in or does the government only want an experienced shelf-stacking workforce.

The whole scheme is a sham, but it does make the unemployment figures look better. Cameron claims there are a million more in work yet tax receipts are down. Strange that.

I'd love to do shit like that, fuck the trolley thing on the car park though, id probably smash a wing mirror off a car or something.

But a jobs a job i suppose , you would get all the best deals on the booze too.

Successive governments have been promising for the last twenty years or so to do something about the situation of long term scroungers- and every one of them has failed. I think there are reasons for this, in addition to the fact that that these governments have been weak. There is an almost ingrained sense of 'right' amongst a lot of people. It's my 'right' to choose not to work- and let others support me- and its that which should be targeted.

However the civil servants sat in local benefit offices are usually a demoralised lot, who probably perceive themselves as poorly paid and subject to constant abuse and challenges from those with a 'right' to every benefit going.. They're under resourced and subject to changes in policy,directives,conditions for entitlement etc. For every initiative the government brings out, there are always a dozen exceptions. Like no housing benefit for the under 25s- a recent Cameron inspired initiative. You're exempt from this initiative if you are from council care,in f/t education,being able to claim long term incapacity or sickness benefit, a refugee, from a broken home, a single parent,.etc., etc.

Simplify the system and what everyone wants will happen- we'll get the parasites off our backs.

But the system is too complex to even tinker with- and gets more complex all the time to administer and run. The recent initiative for a one off benefit covering everything (suggested by Ian Duncan Smith) is already plagued by a multitude of exemptions and problems, and thousands of sympathisers who say that its unfair. To cap housing benefit at 'only' £500 per week is deemed 'unjust' by pressure groups. That's £2000 a month just for rent!! And the taxpayer pays it. £2000 per month is just about the average salary for a f/t employee in the UK at the moment

It's far easier to let the undeserving parasites turn up on weekly basis put their mark on a bit of paper and walk away with a few hundred quid to sit on their arse,fagging and watching the telly- because they have a 'right' to do this

Rammy, looks like you've fallen for the government spin about benefits.
Do you really think that people are given £500 a week to pay their rent?
The only ones to gain from this are the greedy landlords in the south east.

The vast majority of those receiving benefit are actually in work but their employers do not pay them a decent living wage. This then has to be made-up by the tax payer.
So the tax payer are subsidising these companies who probably do all they can not to pay tax themselves.

chipbutty wrote:Rammy, looks like you've fallen for the government spin about benefits.
Do you really think that people are given £500 a week to pay their rent?
The only ones to gain from this are the greedy landlords in the south east.

The vast majority of those receiving benefit are actually in work but their employers do not pay them a decent living wage. This then has to be made-up by the tax payer.
So the tax payer are subsidising these companies who probably do all they can not to pay tax themselves.

Thus proving that the minimum wage is not the same as a living wage. Its about time the Government, although they won't, adopted the Living Wage and scrap the Minimum Wage. Once they do adopt it then its teh companies that have to pay a proper wage and teh number of people claiming benefits will actually drop!!!

chipbutty wrote:Rammy, looks like you've fallen for the government spin about benefits.
Do you really think that people are given £500 a week to pay their rent?
The only ones to gain from this are the greedy landlords in the south east.

The vast majority of those receiving benefit are actually in work but their employers do not pay them a decent living wage. This then has to be made-up by the tax payer.
So the tax payer are subsidising these companies who probably do all they can not to pay tax themselves.

Agreed with most of your points. It is social landlords who try to squeeze as much as they can. Many years ago the government tried to intervene in the rental housing market with capped rents. Much older readers will remember the evil days of Rachmanism.

The effect of the government's intervention was that social landlords simply took their properties off the market, thus reducing supply and this made the problem infinitely worse - fewer properties available to rent, and classical economic theory drove up the rental prices. It's a salutary tale when governments try to improve things- they merely serve to corrupt the markets and make things worse.

I agree with you about people being underpaid - supporting poor paying employers. If they paid a fair wage , then presumably their costs would go up and in an efficient market they'd have to charge more for their products, increasing prices and costing the consumer more.



I was ranting on about the undeserving class though- those who make a deliberate choice not to work. For them its a completely rational choice- why work for low wages when I can get more off the state for doing nothing.

As an addendum- my brother was self employed for over 30 years- paying his tax and NICS- but due to the downturn his business folded and he was broke. He tried to get benefits- but as a previously self employed person he was told that he wasn't entitled to anything- so he could go and starve. His wife has a part time job, and they now live off her wages. Your reward for doing the correct thing?- told to get lost.

Just back from a lunch of chicken pie and chips washed down with two pints of Fosters. Special deal of £5 at my local. Lovely. Now I'll spend the afternoon watching porn films and playing Xbox before tea at the chippy and a few more bevvies in town with the Ewood boys.

All paid for by the taxpayer. Fantastic.

Enjoy work losers.

Bolton Hater wrote:Just back from a lunch of chicken pie and chips washed down with two pints of Fosters. Special deal of £5 at my local. Lovely. Now I'll spend the afternoon watching porn films and playing Xbox before tea at the chippy and a few more bevvies in town with the Ewood boys.

All paid for by the taxpayer. Fantastic.

Enjoy work losers.

Sounds like you're on to a winner there BH. What does that work out at - about £20 a day disposable income? And enough over to cover your rent, fuel bills, transport costs, holidays etc etc etc?
You must be seriously disabled to pull that amount of benefit mate.
Or you live with your mum.
Either way, I wouldn't start going to football matches as you'll find they're out of your income bracket. In fact I don't think you should ever consider going anywhere. Or doing anything.

My unreserved apologies for my insensitivity to BH.
I should have thought it through before posting as you obviously won't be able to go anywhere with your disability being as bad as it must be. Didn't mean to offend.
Good of your mum to wheel you down to the pub though. You must love her very much.

Bolton Hater wrote:Just back from a lunch of chicken pie and chips washed down with two pints of Fosters. Special deal of £5 at my local. Lovely. Now I'll spend the afternoon watching porn films and playing Xbox before tea at the chippy and a few more bevvies in town with the Ewood boys.

All paid for by the taxpayer. Fantastic.

Enjoy work losers.

you disgust me.

Bolton Hater wrote:Just back from a lunch of chicken pie and chips washed down with two pints of Fosters. Special deal of £5 at my local. Lovely. Now I'll spend the afternoon watching porn films and playing Xbox before tea at the chippy and a few more bevvies in town with the Ewood boys.

All paid for by the taxpayer. Fantastic.

Enjoy work losers.

No wonder your a fat bastard.

Good deal at your local though.

scottjames30 wrote:

Good deal at your local though.

Bolton Hater wrote:Just back from a lunch of chicken pie and chips washed down with two pints of Fosters. Special deal of £5 at my local. Lovely. Now I'll spend the afternoon watching porn films and playing Xbox before tea at the chippy and a few more bevvies in town with the Ewood boys.

All paid for by the taxpayer. Fantastic.

Enjoy work losers.

That life would be so sad, you must be lying to wind people up.

Congrats, you got a few bites

Ive heard depression, bipolar and Agraphobia are all on the increase as they are fairly hard to diagnose as you cannot physically see the disability. It must be easy to blag these illnesses? This then entitles you to then claim £100 - £130 per week in DLA so it outweighs £200 per week min wage.

Boggersbelief wrote:

That life would be so sad, you must be lying to wind people up.

Congrats, you got a few bites

I enjoy it, my mates enjoy it, and plenty of people are jealous.

Beer, food, porn, Xbox and slags. Brilliant.

WhiteBic wrote:Ive heard depression, bipolar and Agraphobia are all on the increase as they are fairly hard to diagnose as you cannot physically see the disability. It must be easy to blag these illnesses? This then entitles you to then claim £100 - £130 per week in DLA so it outweighs £200 per week min wage.

In total I pull in £272 per week in benefit. Tax free!