Bolton 2-2 WBA

largehat wrote:Oh right, so everyone else's level of loyalty and commitment should be benchmarked against what you think.

Yes. To continue to follow these fools is simply misguided. Do they honestly think we're going to pull off some famous win at Stoke? As if.

They dont have it in them to win at stoke, they are scaredy cats and coyle is a TWAT.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

largehat wrote:Oh right, so everyone else's level of loyalty and commitment should be benchmarked against what you think.

Yes. To continue to follow these fools is simply misguided. Do they honestly think we're going to pull off some famous win at Stoke? As if.

I sometimes wonder if there's actually a normal, well adjusted human being underneath all your veneers of complete and utter garbage.

You're the person who said we had absolutely no chance of winning at Villa. You said we "just don't win games like this one". You had us relegated months ago. Your opinion isn't worth shit.

I think you'll find Stoke are in a similar vein of form to Villa, have even less to play for than Villa did, hate QPR, we beat Stoke 5-0 earlier in the season and are just 13/8 at the bookies to win (Stoke are 13-10), which is rare for an away side.

Sure, we might not win at Stoke, but we have a fighting chance and if I could get hold of tickets I would be there. You can please yourself, I do know one thing - if we do win, you won't be around on here that evening.

largehat wrote:

I sometimes wonder if there's actually a normal, well adjusted human being underneath all your veneers of complete and utter garbage.

You're the person who said we had absolutely no chance of winning at Villa. You said we "just don't win games like this one". You had us relegated months ago. Your opinion isn't worth shit.

I think you'll find Stoke are in a similar vein of form to Villa, have even less to play for than Villa did, hate QPR, we beat Stoke 5-0 earlier in the season and are just 13/8 at the bookies to win (Stoke are 13-10), which is rare for an away side.

Sure, we might not win at Stoke, but we have a fighting chance and if I could get hold of tickets I would be there. You can please yourself, I do know one thing - if we do win, you won't be around on here that evening.

When is enough enough though? Will you follow Bolton whatever?

Natasha Whittam wrote:
When is enough enough though? Will you follow Bolton whatever?

Enough of what? Most posters on here seem to be about my age or older and like me, will have followed the club in the fourth tier of English football. Fewer people go to the games when we play at a lower level, but I'm sorry you consider this foolish because in the past you've talked about going to Southampton on a weekday etc, my love for my football team is pretty much unconditional.

I may get pissed off - and I have been pissed off a lot this season, even though I seem to have given you the impression I am delighted with everything because I challenge you on some of your ridiculous criticisms and ludicrous expectations - but I'm not going to stop supporting my team because I don't think much of a current set of players or manager - they are all temporary anyway, the only permanence in football is the fans.

I actually think describing your fellow fans as fools for going to Stoke is the stupidest and most outrageous thing I've ever seen you write. You're wrong on so many levels I don't know where to begin.

Nice words, but until you vote with your feet you will continue to pay for these ponces to swan around not giving a damn about BWFC.

Don't get me wrong, I have been as guilty as anyone of this - but today I finally woke up.

I would have taken Davies off at 2-0. He was looking tired. Oh and shit.
We could see gaps opening in midfield and we needed to see the game out and secure the points. At 2-0 we should have taken off K Davies and brought on a midfielder. It was obvious in my eyes.

It was a huge error to bring Lee on when the game was so tight. Everybody knows how hard it is to come back from injury and it's a very rare occasion that somebody slots straight back in and plays well. Very rare. Lee looked light weight, slow, and slow. It may have cost us the game.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Nice words, but until you vote with your feet you will continue to pay for these ponces to swan around not giving a damn about BWFC.

Don't get me wrong, I have been as guilty as anyone of this - but today I finally woke up.

I'm not being forced out of following my team due to the monetisation of football.

Gate receipts are a small percentage of the club's income nowadays in any case, and BWFC and the players won't make a penny out of the 2,700 individuals who go to Stoke next week will they?

Natasha Whittam wrote:Nice words, but until you vote with your feet you will continue to pay for these ponces to swan around not giving a damn about BWFC.

Don't get me wrong, I have been as guilty as anyone of this - but today I finally woke up.

Nat will you still be following/supporting Bolton if/when we get relegated? I seem to remember someone posting on another site that maybe it would not be a disaster if we did get relegated.

Nat, your angry, and upset with the team today, along with that tit Coyle. I know exactly where you are coming from, and I feel the same way. I also know that you will continue to support them, even though right now, you just want to lash out. There have been a few times in the past where I've decided to walk away, but just couldn't, and you will be the same. If they didn't mean that much to you, you wouldn't take all the knocks and abuse on here. Give it until next week, and you, like the rest of us, will settle down, just to start again.

Actually gloswhite, I hate to negate such a touching message in anyway, but Nat starts the "abuse and knocks" 90% of the time. The remaining 10% of the time its because she has deliberately antagonised the other person. Like you said the other day, she says things to attempt to goad others.

I wouldn't be too concerned about Natasha's apparant lost faith either, it's probably bullshit.

Look at the bright side ......if we go down then I won't have to argue with the fools who talk about Europe at the start of every season.
Coyle says we would be a top ten side with Chung & Holden ....... I love the daft.
We would be hammered by most of the Championship clubs as it stands right now.
Anyway one game left to get out of it ..... makes it exciting at least.

Our players and manager need shooting. Had we won yesterday I think we'd only need a draw in our last game, now we have to win and we'll be down anyway if QPR get any sort of result at City. Stoke have only lost 4 league games at home this season, I can't believe we are 13/8 to win. I may lump on Stoke.

I actually think QPR will get battered at City, so it is in our own hands if we stay up or not. This is like a play off final, win we stay up, lose and its next season in the championship.

Although our task of staying up is a lot harder now we have to win rather than win or draw, do you think in some ways it is a good thing we now know we have to win. When you know a draw is probably good enough you can become cautious and hard to set up the right sort of game plan. The fact is we have only kept 3 clean sheets away from home in the Premier League since November 2008! (Twice away at Wigan and QPR this season). We need to set up to go out and win - we are goingt to have to score at least 2 goals to have any chance. I think we need to bring Klasnic back into the team next weekend, someone who can score goals.

Nat is right, you lot who think we can win and are going to Stoke are deluded, you should be driven to Stoke in one of those big orange buses.

I have slept on it and I still feel exactly the same.

I call it the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome. Largehat and company have all been brainwashed into believing that BWFC is worthy of their support, despite the club giving nothing back for many years. In truth, they are just fleecing us.

If your favourite restaurant suddenly started serving crap food how long would you stay loyal? Not long I suspect. Why is football any different?

From 2-0 to 2-2 fucking disgraceful!!!!

What did both Nat and I say about Chungy - quelle surprise!!! And brought back far too soon!!!

Yes we need to win next week, but what chance do we have on winning at Stoke? For Stoke its their last home game and will want to finish off in style (unlike Coyle's witherers!), plus they will want some comeback for the 5-0 drubbing earlier in the season, plus how many times have they lost at home (don't even mention the fcat we play better when travelling, when we don't - we have just been very lucky!).



Finish the season off, then get rid of Coyle, get rid of all the fucking deadwood players in the squad (and that it actually most of the squad) - keep Bogdan, Holden, Chungy, Ream and the guy from Rangers (still not cleared to play and yet other players who left Rangers are playing for their new teams!!!!) and build a completely new team around them (If Holden and Chungy are still not perfectly fit by end of December then sell in January window). DO NOT renew any contracts that are up this summer - the players involved are just clearly past it and crap!

LH, my last comment wasn't meant to be 'touching', so don't be so condescending, it isn't appreciated. My comment was to say that for all all of our rantings, including yours, we will still follow the Whites, regardless of how we feel at this time.

Fair enough, I apologise for coming off as condescending. I just don't see why someone who has nothing but venom for her team and fellow supporters deserves any understanding words.

No problem. I do have sessions where I have to bite my tongue with some of Nats postings.When she hasn't got a good topic to start, she decides to hang out the bait, just to see who bites, and then gets embroiled in an argument just for the sake of it. Makes interesting reading though Although it will never happen, I'd like to meet her, just to see if she's as troublesome and argumentative as she appears on here, (probably is)

It's amazing how many people I've never met seem to know what I am really thinking, rather than what I post on here.

I've supported Bolton Wanderers since I was a kid. I went 6 years without missing a game, home or away, so no one can say I haven't put my fair share of effort in.

But I don't enjoy it anymore, surely I'd be a fool to continue to do something I don't enjoy?

I have no idea what you're actually thinking, and frankly, it isn't the point.

All I can do is read the stuff you post on here. I'd grown used to you attacking the team, the manager, the backroom staff, the chairman, the scouts - anything to do with the club. I find your attack on BWFC fans for going to support the team disgusting.

I don't care if you've "lost faith" or never go to a game again. That's your personal choice. But to suggest those who do are fools is taking things too far.

I am aware others think you have a free pass to post any bollocks you want because apparently everything you post is tongue-in-cheek. Well attacking your fellow fans on a terrible day for the club such as yesterday is taking your license to talk shit too far.