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Open letter to Scott
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Copper Dragon
xmiles
Bwfc1958
NickFazer
Boggersbelief
bwfc71
Reebok Trotter
boltonbonce
Natasha Whittam
Mr Magoo
karlypants
Soul Kitchen
Sluffy
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142 Re: Open letter to Scott Mon Dec 15 2014, 23:25
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Right, the majority have said Scott can come back. Sort it out mods
143 Re: Open letter to Scott Mon Dec 15 2014, 23:27
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Scott is desperate to come back.
144 Re: Open letter to Scott Mon Dec 15 2014, 23:29
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Mr Magoo wrote:fuck me its only another shitty forum
145 Re: Open letter to Scott Mon Dec 15 2014, 23:29
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
boltonbonce wrote:Scott is desperate to come back.
146 Re: Open letter to Scott Mon Dec 15 2014, 23:52
Sluffy
Admin
Boggersbelief wrote:Right, the majority have said Scott can come back. Sort it out mods
I think the right thing to do in this instance is to see how Bread feels about things.
You know how I feel, I've spelled it out above but if by bringing Scott back, Bread feels he has to leave then what have we achieved, in fact it makes things worse in that Bread was the one sinned against in the first place! That clearly can't be the right outcome.
Clearly I'm hoping Bread will give it another try but I rather him come to that view himself rather than be brow beaten in to it or have it forced on him anyway.
Seems the right way to progress things to me.
And Magoo this isn't any old shitty forum - it's OUR shitty forum!
147 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 00:25
Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
Going off breads previous comments I think it would be fair to say that he doesn't want scott back on here but doesn't want the responsibility to be on him to make a decision on whether someone should be banned from the forum or not. I think the decision lies with you here sluffy and the other mods. Maybe it would be better for you to pm bread and ask him rather than get him to publicly make a decision?
148 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 00:56
Sluffy
Admin
I had alread thought along those lines anyway.
The thing is though that my position on this matter is already public and if the site was not to allow Scott back then it would not take much working out as why that had not happened.
So I rather be open on the matter.
However Bread feels will effect the decision, whether we are informed of it by pm or on the public forum.
His decision would not be about banning Scott - he's already banned - but rather if he could tolerate to be on the same forum as him again.
If he can't then what is the point of recinding Scott's ban if it results in his 'victim' having to leave the forum - that can't be a fair outcome can it?
If he can then why not say so publicly and take the credit for it rather than let it look as though we had 'hoisted' a decision upon him?
Yes we could easily take the decision from Bread and bring Scott back but unless Bread can also draw a line under what as happened then things would only fester and that would only lead to trouble further down the line.
I rather get things out in the open now.
It's the only sensible way I think to deal with this so everyone knows exactly where they stand.
The thing is though that my position on this matter is already public and if the site was not to allow Scott back then it would not take much working out as why that had not happened.
So I rather be open on the matter.
However Bread feels will effect the decision, whether we are informed of it by pm or on the public forum.
His decision would not be about banning Scott - he's already banned - but rather if he could tolerate to be on the same forum as him again.
If he can't then what is the point of recinding Scott's ban if it results in his 'victim' having to leave the forum - that can't be a fair outcome can it?
If he can then why not say so publicly and take the credit for it rather than let it look as though we had 'hoisted' a decision upon him?
Yes we could easily take the decision from Bread and bring Scott back but unless Bread can also draw a line under what as happened then things would only fester and that would only lead to trouble further down the line.
I rather get things out in the open now.
It's the only sensible way I think to deal with this so everyone knows exactly where they stand.
149 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 01:07
Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
Fair point.Sluffy wrote:
The thing is though that my position on this matter is already public and if the site was not to allow Scott back then it would not take much working out as why that had not happened.
So I rather be open on the matter.
However Bread feels will effect the decision, whether we are informed of it by pm or on the public forum.
If he can then why not say so publicly and take the credit for it rather than let it look as though we had 'hoisted' a decision upon him?
150 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 07:53
Guest
Guest
Sluffy wrote:I had alread thought along those lines anyway.
The thing is though that my position on this matter is already public and if the site was not to allow Scott back then it would not take much working out as why that had not happened.
So I rather be open on the matter.
However Bread feels will effect the decision, whether we are informed of it by pm or on the public forum.
His decision would not be about banning Scott - he's already banned - but rather if he could tolerate to be on the same forum as him again.
If he can't then what is the point of recinding Scott's ban if it results in his 'victim' having to leave the forum - that can't be a fair outcome can it?
If he can then why not say so publicly and take the credit for it rather than let it look as though we had 'hoisted' a decision upon him?
Yes we could easily take the decision from Bread and bring Scott back but unless Bread can also draw a line under what as happened then things would only fester and that would only lead to trouble further down the line.
I rather get things out in the open now.
It's the only sensible way I think to deal with this so everyone knows exactly where they stand.
Why doesn't Bread add Scott to his foes list and vice versa, then they can't see what each other is writing. So one can't wind up and the other can't react.
151 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 07:59
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
You utter bellends.
Breadman has clearly stated he doesn't want Scott back, grow a pair you fuckwits.
Breadman has clearly stated he doesn't want Scott back, grow a pair you fuckwits.
152 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 09:42
Guest
Guest
day 478 in the scott and breadman debacle.
we need a theme tune.
i'm thinking..............green day - wake me up when september (2015) ends (and someody has made a f**king decision)
it's the bonus track edition
we need a theme tune.
i'm thinking..............green day - wake me up when september (2015) ends (and someody has made a f**king decision)
it's the bonus track edition
153 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 09:50
Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
I think you have an unhealthy obsession with the word 'bellend'. Maybe you need to speak to someone about your problem.Natasha Whittam wrote:You utter bellends.
Breadman has clearly stated he doesn't want Scott back, grow a pair you fuckwits.
154 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 10:21
Guest
Guest
It needs to be a duet they can sing to each other.y2johnny wrote:day 478 in the scott and breadman debacle.
we need a theme tune.
i'm thinking..............green day - wake me up when september (2015) ends (and someody has made a f**king decision)
it's the bonus track edition
I'm thinking
155 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 10:21
Mr Magoo
Youri Djorkaeff
Sluffy wrote:Boggersbelief wrote:Right, the majority have said Scott can come back. Sort it out mods
I think the right thing to do in this instance is to see how Bread feels about things.
You know how I feel, I've spelled it out above but if by bringing Scott back, Bread feels he has to leave then what have we achieved, in fact it makes things worse in that Bread was the one sinned against in the first place! That clearly can't be the right outcome.
Clearly I'm hoping Bread will give it another try but I rather him come to that view himself rather than be brow beaten in to it or have it forced on him anyway.
Seems the right way to progress things to me.
And Magoo this isn't any old shitty forum - it's OUR shitty forum!
156 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 10:31
Guest
Guest
what about this little gem, where the band is also ironically named
159 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 10:55
Guest
Guest
I've made my position clear and to be honest, even I'm getting bored with having to keep restating it and dragging this "debate" on.
I don't want him back because I honestly don't trust him not to start targeting me again - we've been here before and he's proven that all the "Yeah, mate, sorry about all the abuse, it was only banter but I'll admit I went too far" stuff he said to me was obviously a pack of lies because of what he said after he went mental a couple of weeks ago and started following me round the forum, trying to get me to bite.
This is not me bearing a grudge, it's an honest assessment of my thoughts about Scott.
I would love to be able to believe that his contrition is genuine and we can put all this behind us and move on.
But I can only base my opinion on the evidence of the past and that would indicate that, given we had 12 months of peace which fell spectacularly apart out of the blue one night after he'd had a few too many, it's clear to me that I can't ever really trust him.
However, as I keep saying, this isn't about me - it's about what's best for NUTS and I'm starting to feel that I can't win with this one.
If I dig my heels in and say categorically "No, don't let him back", I look like a mardy arsed kid and that would no doubt attract more negative feeling towards me from certain quarters.
If I say "Ok, let him back", I then have to tread carefully and not bite back if he starts his shit again. (Blocking him won't work, if he's still got a beef with me, my not being able to see his comments isn't going to solve anything, is it?)
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And to be honest, I'm not sure I'm ok with all this boiling down to what I want to happen - he got banned for repeatedly breaching the site's rules, not mine and it wasn't my decision to ban him, the mods did it.
I just can't help thinking that whatever happens now, I'm going to look like a bit of a tool.
And I never asked to be put in this position.
The simplest way to let this play out would appear to be for me to officially sanction his return (even though it's not really my call and I don't want that "power") and see what happens.
As I've already said, nothing would please me more than to have a resolution which makes everyone happy but I just have my reservations.
I don't want him back because I honestly don't trust him not to start targeting me again - we've been here before and he's proven that all the "Yeah, mate, sorry about all the abuse, it was only banter but I'll admit I went too far" stuff he said to me was obviously a pack of lies because of what he said after he went mental a couple of weeks ago and started following me round the forum, trying to get me to bite.
This is not me bearing a grudge, it's an honest assessment of my thoughts about Scott.
I would love to be able to believe that his contrition is genuine and we can put all this behind us and move on.
But I can only base my opinion on the evidence of the past and that would indicate that, given we had 12 months of peace which fell spectacularly apart out of the blue one night after he'd had a few too many, it's clear to me that I can't ever really trust him.
However, as I keep saying, this isn't about me - it's about what's best for NUTS and I'm starting to feel that I can't win with this one.
If I dig my heels in and say categorically "No, don't let him back", I look like a mardy arsed kid and that would no doubt attract more negative feeling towards me from certain quarters.
If I say "Ok, let him back", I then have to tread carefully and not bite back if he starts his shit again. (Blocking him won't work, if he's still got a beef with me, my not being able to see his comments isn't going to solve anything, is it?)
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And to be honest, I'm not sure I'm ok with all this boiling down to what I want to happen - he got banned for repeatedly breaching the site's rules, not mine and it wasn't my decision to ban him, the mods did it.
I just can't help thinking that whatever happens now, I'm going to look like a bit of a tool.
And I never asked to be put in this position.
The simplest way to let this play out would appear to be for me to officially sanction his return (even though it's not really my call and I don't want that "power") and see what happens.
As I've already said, nothing would please me more than to have a resolution which makes everyone happy but I just have my reservations.
160 Re: Open letter to Scott Tue Dec 16 2014, 11:15
Mr Magoo
Youri Djorkaeff
May I suggest he is on a yellow card, any serious abuse that is not funny he is out.
The mods will have to keep an eye on things, Bread if he starts I will back you 100% and I will kick his arse.
You will never be looked at as a mardy arse.
Its nearly Christmas lets have some friendly banter and fun.
SCOTT
The mods will have to keep an eye on things, Bread if he starts I will back you 100% and I will kick his arse.
You will never be looked at as a mardy arse.
Its nearly Christmas lets have some friendly banter and fun.
SCOTT
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