Maybe this isn't the place to ask, but has anyone had any issues seeing their kids?

Exactly. People think I am joking about this issue but I feel too many people split up as though they're 12 years old and still at school.

If more couples stayed together there would be less people on benefits, less people needing council houses, less kids growing up without a father, and society in general would be less violent and aggresive.

All the best with the issue RR, Not a thread to troll Nat. Shame on you.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Exactly. People think I am joking about this issue but I feel too many people split up as though they're 12 years old and still at school.

If more couples stayed together there would be less people on benefits, less people needing council houses, less kids growing up without a father, and society in general would be less violent and aggresive.

I do agree in general, but sometimes its for the good of the kids.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:All the best with the issue RR, Not a thread to troll Nat. Shame on you.

Everyone entitled to their opinion.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:All the best with the issue RR, Not a thread to troll Nat. Shame on you.

Shut up you idiot. Do you disagree that people split up too easily these days?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:All the best with the issue RR, Not a thread to troll Nat. Shame on you.

Shut up you idiot. Do you disagree that people split up too easily these days?

It's not something i think about to be honest. If the stats say they do, i guess they do!

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

It's not something i think about to be honest. If the stats say they do, i guess they do!

A lot of people think we will end up together. Trust me, it will be for life.

So when is the wedding, Natasha, I'll have to get my other half a new hat for the day?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

It's not something i think about to be honest. If the stats say they do, i guess they do!

A lot of people think we will end up together. Trust me, it will be for life.

haha!

err no.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

haha!

err no.

Don't fight it, lover.

Thanks Mr Whittam for again turning a serious thread in to complete farce...

Trotter is right when he said forums where a good place for basic advice, however not ones where Bolton's resident forum troll is involved.

Unfortunately there seems to be no forums were someone or other doesn't stir it in someway or other.

Hope the seroius advice you did get was of help and I'm sure I'm speaking for the vast majority on here by wishing that everything goes well with you having proper access to your son.

Sluffy wrote:Unfortunately there seems to be no forums were someone or other doesn't stir it in someway or other.

Hope the seroius advice you did get was of help and I'm sure I'm speaking for the vast majority on here by wishing that everything goes well with you having proper access to your son.

Sluffy wrote:Unfortunately there seems to be no forums were someone or other doesn't stir it in someway or other.

Hope the seroius advice you did get was of help and I'm sure I'm speaking for the vast majority on here by wishing that everything goes well with you having proper access to your son.

You can shut the fuck up sluffy you bellend.

Just because I am against parents splitting up doesn't make me a WUM.

Ask 100 people in the street and 75 would say divorce/splitting up is a major reason for "broken Britain". Are they all WUMs?

The simple fact is that people have kids without really thinking about it, and you can talk bollocks by saying "it was better for the kids for us to split up" but that is just a cop out. It's never better for the kids to have parents living seperately.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

You can shut the fuck up sluffy you bellend.

Just because I am against parents splitting up doesn't make me a WUM.

Ask 100 people in the street and 75 would say divorce/splitting up is a major reason for "broken Britain". Are they all WUMs?

The simple fact is that people have kids without really thinking about it, and you can talk bollocks by saying "it was better for the kids for us to split up" but that is just a cop out. It's never better for the kids to have parents living seperately.

It's easy to generalise but we don't know the circumstances surrounding each case. People tend to get married and have kids because they love one another. Many people choose to live together as man and wife and have children but never tie the knot.

Who is to say who is right? Each case has to be judged on it's own merits. Anyone who thinks otherwise must have rocks in their head.

Reebok Trotter wrote:

It's easy to generalise but we don't know the circumstances surrounding each case. People tend to get married and have kids because they love one another. Many people choose to live together as man and wife and have children but never tie the knot.

Who is to say who is right? Each case has to be judged on it's own merits. Anyone who thinks otherwise must have rocks in their head.

I am generalising, but I don't have rocks in my head.

It's a proven fact that kids with two parents (living together) grow up to be more successful and happy.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

It's a proven fact that kids with two parents (living together) grow up to be more successful and happy.

I am not sure how it is possible to quantify such a statement. It isn't documented. What about families with children who lose one of their parents through illness?

Not all parents who are widowed go on to remarry and they are still able to bring up their children in a loving and caring environment.

In an ideal world all children would probably benefit from having two parents but life isn't ideal.

I am not married, but been with my partner for 24 yrs, we still get on well and have a good laugh.
i wouldn't change it for all the tea in China, also have 2 teenage kid's, god i feel lucky.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:

It's easy to generalise but we don't know the circumstances surrounding each case. People tend to get married and have kids because they love one another. Many people choose to live together as man and wife and have children but never tie the knot.

Who is to say who is right? Each case has to be judged on it's own merits. Anyone who thinks otherwise must have rocks in their head.

I am generalising, but I don't have rocks in my head.

It's a proven fact that kids with two parents (living together) grow up to be more successful and happy.

Im not getting in to a slanging match with you Nat, however...

My mother dumped me on my dad aged one and disappeared - never shown any interest whatsoever, no birthday cards, no Christmas cards, etc. I know she is still alive but she left - my dad had to bring me up on his own along with my grandparents.

My dad re-married about 10 years ago. I call her mum even though she isn't.

I never lived a life of poverty due to being in a single parent family, I wanted for nothing. Ok, my dad had a little more money than most single parents do and could we could afford a much better standard of living than most.

The point im trying to make is this - I was brought up in a family that you would consider 'dysfunctional' - I turned out fine, I went through school, college and university, bought a house at 26 and have a fairly decent job - all before 30.

So I think your maths are messed up. Yes, some kids from so called 'dysfunctional' families turn out bad, but plenty of kids from 'perfect' families also turn out bad. I think its more down to class, ignorance and bad parenting than actually who the child lives with.

Its a known fact that most kids in single parent families are happier as one parent always spoils the child and they have somewhere to 'run away' to, in a manner of speaking.

You and I both know the REAL reasons for broken Britain - and single parent families are not one of them. Your Trolling...

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:

It's easy to generalise but we don't know the circumstances surrounding each case. People tend to get married and have kids because they love one another. Many people choose to live together as man and wife and have children but never tie the knot.

Who is to say who is right? Each case has to be judged on it's own merits. Anyone who thinks otherwise must have rocks in their head.

I am generalising, but I don't have rocks in my head.

It's a proven fact that kids with two parents (living together) grow up to be more successful and happy.

Erm one side of my parents grew up in a single parent family and both my parent and sibling became successful in their own fields. I know of an English lecturer at at top A-class university in the US who went to a Bolton school and was a child of a single parent family

So you non-qualified statement does not actually make sense!! But is is certain proved fact that children brought up with waring parents do have, in the majority, instability in their grown up life!