If Dougie were to go...

Culcheth_White wrote:If Dougie were to go? Well, Bet Victor have Chris Coleman down as 6/4 favourite for the job.  

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I don't see Pep on there, or Jose, or even Manuel. Why not? Don't those fools want to work for a REALLY big club?      

Get who you like. As long as Gartside is in position we've got problems.

boltonbonce wrote:Get who you like. As long as Gartside is in position we've got problems.

Why? What is he doing thats inhibiting things?

Lee,Megson,Coyle,Freedman,Wonga. When Freedman goes,which he will,Gartside will once again peruse the list of deadbeats he keeps in his desk and come up with another Phil 'special.' Probably Ken Dodd for his financial acumen. The only feather in his cap is that he appointed BSA. He's like a one armed trapeze artist with an itchy arse. He's gotta fall.

boltonbonce wrote:Lee,Megson,Coyle,Freedman,Wonga. When Freedman goes,which he will,Gartside will once again peruse the list of deadbeats he keeps in his desk and come up with another Phil 'special.' Probably Ken Dodd for his financial acumen. The only feather in his cap is that he appointed BSA. He's like a one armed trapeze artist with an itchy arse. He's gotta fall.

I'm speechless after reading that

I think that now with our huge debt, I feel that we can't perhaps afford someone who has been around for a while and got lots of experience.

He's also overseen one of the most successful periods of our history. 

I think people dislike Gartside because he's the only 'public' figure from the board. Granted he's made a couple of poor managerial appointments, but I don't think he's a hugely negative influence on the club as a lot to seem to believe.

bwfc1874 wrote:He's also overseen one of the most successful periods of our history. 

I think people dislike Gartside because he's the only 'public' figure from the board. Granted he's made a couple of poor managerial appointments, but I don't think he's a hugely negative influence on the club as a lot to seem to believe.

Do you think it would make a difference if Gartside got the chop and someone else was brought in?

The thing is that someone has to be blamed for the amount of debt we are in and it is pointing towards him.

I'm going off topic here somewhat.

Well that's my point really Karly, I don't think it would make any difference at all if Gartside was to go and somebody else come in.

I see your point about the debt, but if we needed an inbviously Eddies level of interest is sky high and it's looking increasingly like he's just found a good place to invest his money. Obviously Eddie's interest is sky high and it looks like he's found a great place for him to invest his money (shame for us). But I don't know enough about the deal to blame Gartside entirely for the debt.

karlypants wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Lee,Megson,Coyle,Freedman,Wonga. When Freedman goes,which he will,Gartside will once again peruse the list of deadbeats he keeps in his desk and come up with another Phil 'special.' Probably Ken Dodd for his financial acumen. The only feather in his cap is that he appointed BSA. He's like a one armed trapeze artist with an itchy arse. He's gotta fall.

I'm speechless after reading that

I think that now with our huge debt, I feel that we can't perhaps afford someone who has been around for a while and got lots of experience.

I bet Tony Pulis would take the job, highly unlikely appointment by Gartside, but he would take it, imo.

I'd be absolutely gutted if we appointed Pulis.

People think Dougie's negative, wait till they see Tony in action.

bwfc1874 wrote:I'd be absolutely gutted if we appointed Pulis.

People think Dougie's negative, wait till they see Tony in action.

"I feel that we can't perhaps afford someone who has been around for a while and got lots of experience."


I was just answering Karlypants post, Pulis wouldn't be the most popular choice, but I stand by my judgement, that he would take the Bolton job, If he was offered it.

Had a peek through Garty's window once. He was sat on the TV watching the couch. Idiot.

Pulis spent millions at Stoke. It's easy to look at what he did there and think, OK he did what was required of him, he must be a safe pair of hands. He only achieved what a lot of other managers could too, given those resources.
People do the same with Megson. Oh the football wasn't pretty, but at least he kept us up. So he fucking should. He spent millions.

Pulis is just one of those managers. Give him £40m to spend, he'll get you £10m worth of players. Can you think of one Stoke player from the last decade that's been sold for a decent profit?

He's basically EVERYTHING we don't need right now.

Tony Pulis' Stats as Manager:

Team	From	To	Record
			G	W	D	L	Win %
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	9 June 1992	5 August 1994	107	31	38	38	28.97
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	31 July 1995	1 July 1999	216	94	62	60	43.52
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	5 July 1999	14 January 2000	33	10	14	9	30.30
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	13 January 2000	12 October 2000	35	11	10	14	31.43
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	1 November 2002	28 June 2005	131	47	32	52	35.88
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	23 September 2005	14 June 2006	39	12	15	12	30.77
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	14 June 2006	21 May 2013	333	122	98	113	36.64
Total			894	327	269	298	36.58

doffcocker wrote:Pulis spent millions at Stoke. It's easy to look at what he did there and think, OK he did what was required of him, he must be a safe pair of hands. He only achieved what a lot of other managers could too, given those resources.
People do the same with Megson. Oh the football wasn't pretty, but at least he kept us up. So he fucking should. He spent millions.

Pulis is just one of those managers. Give him £40m to spend, he'll get you £10m worth of players. Can you think of one Stoke player from the last decade that's been sold for a decent profit?

He's basically EVERYTHING we don't need right now.

Agreed, it's bizarre the amount of people who say he did a great job on limited resources. They had something like the 3rd or 5th highest net spend in England since '05. Wasted a ton of money and succeeded in making Stoke 'hard to beat'.

karlypants wrote:Tony Pulis' Stats as Manager:

Team	From	To	Record
			G	W	D	L	Win %
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	9 June 1992	5 August 1994	107	31	38	38	28.97
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	31 July 1995	1 July 1999	216	94	62	60	43.52
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	5 July 1999	14 January 2000	33	10	14	9	30.30
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	13 January 2000	12 October 2000	35	11	10	14	31.43
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	1 November 2002	28 June 2005	131	47	32	52	35.88
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	23 September 2005	14 June 2006	39	12	15	12	30.77
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	14 June 2006	21 May 2013	333	122	98	113	36.64
Total			894	327	269	298	36.58

Where did you get these stats from Karly?

bwfc1874 wrote:

karlypants wrote:Tony Pulis' Stats as Manager:

Team	From	To	Record
			G	W	D	L	Win %
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	9 June 1992	5 August 1994	107	31	38	38	28.97
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	31 July 1995	1 July 1999	216	94	62	60	43.52
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	5 July 1999	14 January 2000	33	10	14	9	30.30
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	13 January 2000	12 October 2000	35	11	10	14	31.43
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	1 November 2002	28 June 2005	131	47	32	52	35.88
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	23 September 2005	14 June 2006	39	12	15	12	30.77
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	14 June 2006	21 May 2013	333	122	98	113	36.64
Total			894	327	269	298	36.58

Where did you get these stats from Karly?

Those are just from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Okay, cheers!

Acccording to Wikipedia, Alan Irvine, who Natasha would like to shag, has a win percentage of over 40% according to Wikipedia.