When do you think a deal will be done

It needs to be done before the transfer window, as long as it's done before then we're safe.

Ffs nat. There is a line.

Stop being a dick

rammywhite wrote:Leaving aside the rather unpleasant tone that this thread has taken- when do you think a deal will be done. Was there any more bits of information leaking out over the last couple of days?

i heard no more leaks which either means they are close to a deal and are locked in no longer smoke filled rooms hammering out who gets the swivel chair, or its all gone a bit quiet. Probably not a terribly helpful incisive post, but compared with a couple of the others on here, at least it shows humanity, respect, and good taste.

Chairmanda wrote:

rammywhite wrote:Leaving aside the rather unpleasant tone that this thread has taken- when do you think a deal will be done. Was there any more bits of information leaking out over the last couple of days?

i heard no more leaks which either means they are close to a deal and are locked in no longer smoke filled rooms hammering out who gets the swivel chair, or its all gone a bit quiet. 

It's at times like these that I wonder about the wisdom of the club making statements that something was happening earlier in the week. Sure the fans were baying for answers but there'll be trouble at mill if it falls through now.

It is so important to get this right so I just hope they are talking to people intent on taking the club forward - but equally I'd like the conclusion to be soon.

For what it is worth my opinion is that there wont be any deal done or if there is I would question the logics of it.

Put simply I can't see anyway anyone could make a return on their money this season.

As far as I understand things the club running costs are close to a £1 million loss per month.  The main single cost would be wages I suspect and the players have contracts that have to be honoured by the club.

Contracts run to the end of July I believe, so anyone taking on the club will face a £1 million loss per month until the end of July.

Who would possibly want to do that?

Far better to let the current ownership to pick up those costs and negotiate for the club in the summer, or from Administration if the club can't make it that far.

Just how I view things.

There is definitely a part of me that's started to think that this is all just a PR exercise from ED and Gartside.

In the past, when things haven't been going well on the pitch, the majority of the fans' ire has mainly been directed at the manager and to a lesser extent, Gartside and ED has always been immune from blame.

Remember when we got tanked at Fulham and he had no choice other than to sack Freedman?

The fans were up in arms and were after his (Gartside's) head.

So what does he do?

Appoints a fairly cheap option (Lennon was out of work) who has just enough on his CV to suggest that he may be a decent manager and in doing so, takes all the heat off himself.

The club continues to cut costs and narrowly avoids FFP sanctions and ED says "Enough. There is no more money coming from Moonshift."

Why?

Because for the first time ever, he'd actually have to stump up some hard cash which he knows he ain't getting back.

I stand by my belief that the business plan was always just to simply try to get back into the Prem fairly cheaply, thus taking care of the losses with the TV money but that patently isn't happening any time soon, so in ED's eyes, he'd just be throwing good money after bad.

So Lennon has to try and scrape together a competitive squad with no money - not easy.

Lennon's being found out now but the fact that ED stopped the flow of money into the transfer kitty almost a year ago certainly hasn't helped his task.

So what do they do?

Concoct a cock and bull story about Holdsworth's lot coming in with a bid, retain Birch to make it all seem legit and stress that he's "facilitating the take over" (and definitely not preparing for Administration, honest...), pretend that Gartside's seriously ill (keeping it all very vague and not revealing any hard facts) so he can go and hide for a bit and wheel Birch out to say that ED is happy to wipe all the debt for the new owners.

Thus propagating the idea that ED is a wonderful benefactor and he really, really loves BWFC and eliciting from the fans the type of plaudits usually reserved for the likes of Mother Theresa and Baby Bejeebus.

Let this float round for a while and sit back and watch as the fans all play "join the dots" and then come out and say "Sorry, the prospective new owners weren't right for BWFC so the deal's off. We tried but it just wasn't to be."

Birch then rides off with his hefty cheque for a few weeks' work, Gartside pulls a miraculous Lazarus act and it's "as you were, boys" at The Macron.

We all now know that the club's losing a million quid a month and ED isn't prepared to put any more cash in, so it looks like we'll probably wind up in Administration and get relegated under ED's ownership.

But at least now, Gartside's getting the sympathy card instead of poison pen letters and ED's spun himself as the greatest benefactor in the world, despite not actually having done anything different to what he's done for the last ten years, apart from hamstringing (?) the manager - the man's an evil genius!

That way, when we're playing Fleetwood and Scunny in League One next term, there will still be plenty of fans amongst the 8000 in the ground who think ED and Garty are a top pair of fellas...

Probably all bollocks but I wouldn't be too surprised if it was true.

Do you believe 9/11 was an inside job ?

Nope.

It was the Swiss what done it.

Fact - ITK.

Breadman, if you really have a wife and kids go and spend some time with them. Take them out for tea, or the cinema, or just a night in front of the telly. But turn your computer off. You're taking BWFC way too seriously.

You can all say sorry when I'm proved right.

I was saying there would be no more money for players because it was all gone 12 months ago when certain individuals on here were still haughtily saying "The club will find the money for ALF, don't worry."

Breadman wrote:You can all say sorry when I'm proved right.

I was saying there would be no more money for players because it was all gone 12 months ago when certain individuals on here were still haughtily saying "The club will find the money for ALF, don't worry."

IIRC your good self also claimed that the club could easily find the money if they wanted to sack the manager

What's that got to do with signing players?

Well we are supposedly skint and close to administration. Don't you see the contradiction ?

Not really.

It all hangs on the fact that ED has chosen not to put any more money in, not that he isn't physically able to.

Big difference.

If ED is this great benefactor he's suddenly being painted as, why doesn't he simply wipe the £180 million "debt" and give Lennon £10m for players?

Because he doesn't want to.

Not that he can't, he doesn't want to.

Infamy! Infamy!

Should we start a separate conspiracy theory thread? I'd like that. I've got loads.

Is there any word as to what is wrong with Gartside?

finlaymcdanger wrote:Is there any word as to what is wrong with Gartside?

Nothing has been said since the announcement of him being ill.

karlypants wrote:

finlaymcdanger wrote:Is there any word as to what is wrong with Gartside?

Nothing has been said since the announcement of him being ill.

I wonder if it's a nervous breakdown. There's no way back for him now - reputation tarnished forever with the other fella having been brought in to sort out the mess.