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102 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 01 2020, 18:03
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
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Just when people started to forget she existed.sunlight wrote:
103 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 01 2020, 18:22
sunlight
Andy Walker
Im just using her gif for entertainment purposes.
104 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 01 2020, 18:29
Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Pain in the neck, shouldn't she be in school?sunlight wrote:
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106 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 01 2020, 18:33
Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
sunlight wrote:
107 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 01 2020, 18:34
sunlight
Andy Walker
I am not a fan of hers. I am just being silly.
108 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 01 2020, 18:41
Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
I'm always being silly.
109 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Fri Oct 02 2020, 12:41
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
This article in the Independent is quite sobering as it lists some of the unresolved issues which "remain to be solved and can blow up into a Brexiternity of rows and problems in years ahead, even if a face-saving deal on trade and state subsidies is concluded by Christmas."
There are few career options in there Sunlight!
1. Michael Gove has announced 7,000 strong lorry queues from 1 January. Businesses need to employ more than 50,000 customs agents.
2. A special permit or passport is needed for lorries to enter Kent. The old Soviet Union had internal passports, but this is a first for Britain. Kent, and other port towns, become large lorry parks.
3. British car manufacturers face tariffs on components imported from out of the EU, which will make cars – all made by foreign-owned firms, notably Japanese auto firms – more expensive to sell in Europe. Unsurprisingly, the EU will not accept Japanese or Turkish components as British
4. Multi-billion pound UK chemical industry says leaving the EU Reach regulatory system will make it difficult and far more expensive to produce chemical products, plastics, cosmetics, detergents etc. in the UK and it would be foolish to set up a parallel UK regulatory system for chemicals.
5. Latest reports say 7,500 financial services jobs have been relocated to EU capitals. JP Morgan transfers 200 key staff to Frankfurt to become Germany’s sixth-biggest bank. Financial services employers are the single biggest category of taxpayers to pay for public services.
6. Manufacturers cannot print catalogues for next spring as they do not know what prices they will pay for any imported elements of a British made food or product. Nor can they print labels as they do not know what information to put on the labels. They lose the EU quality mark.
7. The former head of MI6, John Sawyer and the former UK EU commissioner, Julian King, have publicly expressed concern about the threat to British security. The UK made 570,000 applications to the EU database on people recorded crossing frontiers. Thousands of requests have also been made to the EU PRUM database for DNA checks on criminals and terrorists. The UK was the biggest user of EU security databases.
8. The UK has so far refused to accept EU data transfer rules necessary to protect privacy. If Johnson and Dominic Cummings maintain this hard line then in theory all data exchanges with the UK that can be transferred to America will be illegal and blocked. There will be a big hit to holiday bookings as such bookings involve data transfers to and from EU.
9. Farms minister George Eustice told MPs there would be five times as many forms to fill on any food exports. Exports of beef and lamb, other animal food products (meat) will be hampered by a severe shortage of vets.
10. Exporters are told to recruit 60,000 new bureaucrats to fill in hundreds of millions of new forms necessary to trade as a “third country” with the EU. This will be the same number as soldiers in the British Army soon. There is no figure on the extra number of customs agents the government will need to recruit.
11. The City of London faces losing 350,000 “EU passports” which allows firms and individuals across the financial services sector to do business with formalities in 27 EU nation states.
12. While Switzerland voted on Sunday in a referendum to overturn a 2014 referendum banning the free movement of people, Priti Patel is putting endless obstacles in the way of care homes, the construction, fruit and vegetable picking, transport and hospitality sectors from recruiting European workers to offset the shortage of British workers.
13. It will be necessary to get an international driving licence to drive in Europe.
14. British pet owners will not be able to take their dogs and other pets to the continent without expensive and time consuming veterinary surgeon vaccinations, checks and documents.
15. British people will lose their free European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) and travel for business or holidays will be more expensive as healthcare insurance has to be taken out.
16. Bank accounts of Brits living in France, Spain, Greece are being closed down as Lloyds, Barclays etc. say it is too expensive to set up separate entities in line with 27 national sets of rules.
17. The UK has signed a free trade agreement (FTA) with Japan, which has more stringent rules on state aid than proposed by the EU. Dominic Raab subsequently agreed on a FTA with Vietnam. Vietnam exports $6.02bn to the UK. The UK exports £300m to Vietnam. Smart thinkers, the Vietnamese.
18. Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Donald Trump’s Northern Ireland envoy have all confirmed there will be no FTA with the UK if the changes to the Northern Irish border signalled in the Internal Markets Act, which boasts about breaking international law, take effect.
19. Up to 2 million Brits who live in Europe for most or some of the year, do not know their future as they have to get new driving licences in languages they may not speak and can only stay for 90 days in a 180-day period in homes they own, as the UK becomes a third country subject to 27 sets of national rules and regulations on rights of foreigners to live, work and retire.
20. The fishing thing
There are few career options in there Sunlight!
1. Michael Gove has announced 7,000 strong lorry queues from 1 January. Businesses need to employ more than 50,000 customs agents.
2. A special permit or passport is needed for lorries to enter Kent. The old Soviet Union had internal passports, but this is a first for Britain. Kent, and other port towns, become large lorry parks.
3. British car manufacturers face tariffs on components imported from out of the EU, which will make cars – all made by foreign-owned firms, notably Japanese auto firms – more expensive to sell in Europe. Unsurprisingly, the EU will not accept Japanese or Turkish components as British
4. Multi-billion pound UK chemical industry says leaving the EU Reach regulatory system will make it difficult and far more expensive to produce chemical products, plastics, cosmetics, detergents etc. in the UK and it would be foolish to set up a parallel UK regulatory system for chemicals.
5. Latest reports say 7,500 financial services jobs have been relocated to EU capitals. JP Morgan transfers 200 key staff to Frankfurt to become Germany’s sixth-biggest bank. Financial services employers are the single biggest category of taxpayers to pay for public services.
6. Manufacturers cannot print catalogues for next spring as they do not know what prices they will pay for any imported elements of a British made food or product. Nor can they print labels as they do not know what information to put on the labels. They lose the EU quality mark.
7. The former head of MI6, John Sawyer and the former UK EU commissioner, Julian King, have publicly expressed concern about the threat to British security. The UK made 570,000 applications to the EU database on people recorded crossing frontiers. Thousands of requests have also been made to the EU PRUM database for DNA checks on criminals and terrorists. The UK was the biggest user of EU security databases.
8. The UK has so far refused to accept EU data transfer rules necessary to protect privacy. If Johnson and Dominic Cummings maintain this hard line then in theory all data exchanges with the UK that can be transferred to America will be illegal and blocked. There will be a big hit to holiday bookings as such bookings involve data transfers to and from EU.
9. Farms minister George Eustice told MPs there would be five times as many forms to fill on any food exports. Exports of beef and lamb, other animal food products (meat) will be hampered by a severe shortage of vets.
10. Exporters are told to recruit 60,000 new bureaucrats to fill in hundreds of millions of new forms necessary to trade as a “third country” with the EU. This will be the same number as soldiers in the British Army soon. There is no figure on the extra number of customs agents the government will need to recruit.
11. The City of London faces losing 350,000 “EU passports” which allows firms and individuals across the financial services sector to do business with formalities in 27 EU nation states.
12. While Switzerland voted on Sunday in a referendum to overturn a 2014 referendum banning the free movement of people, Priti Patel is putting endless obstacles in the way of care homes, the construction, fruit and vegetable picking, transport and hospitality sectors from recruiting European workers to offset the shortage of British workers.
13. It will be necessary to get an international driving licence to drive in Europe.
14. British pet owners will not be able to take their dogs and other pets to the continent without expensive and time consuming veterinary surgeon vaccinations, checks and documents.
15. British people will lose their free European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) and travel for business or holidays will be more expensive as healthcare insurance has to be taken out.
16. Bank accounts of Brits living in France, Spain, Greece are being closed down as Lloyds, Barclays etc. say it is too expensive to set up separate entities in line with 27 national sets of rules.
17. The UK has signed a free trade agreement (FTA) with Japan, which has more stringent rules on state aid than proposed by the EU. Dominic Raab subsequently agreed on a FTA with Vietnam. Vietnam exports $6.02bn to the UK. The UK exports £300m to Vietnam. Smart thinkers, the Vietnamese.
18. Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Donald Trump’s Northern Ireland envoy have all confirmed there will be no FTA with the UK if the changes to the Northern Irish border signalled in the Internal Markets Act, which boasts about breaking international law, take effect.
19. Up to 2 million Brits who live in Europe for most or some of the year, do not know their future as they have to get new driving licences in languages they may not speak and can only stay for 90 days in a 180-day period in homes they own, as the UK becomes a third country subject to 27 sets of national rules and regulations on rights of foreigners to live, work and retire.
20. The fishing thing
110 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Fri Oct 02 2020, 12:46
sunlight
Andy Walker
Is there a course for `Customs Agents` in Bojos free courses?
111 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Oct 03 2020, 10:32
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
James Cleverley is surely the most barefaced of the government's liars with his avowal on Breakfast TV today that their attempts to circumvent what they signed up to re the Withdrawal Bill do not break international law!
How does he have the nerve to stare down the camers lens and deny what other ministers have already admitted? There is no trust left globally in the UK's word. Trade deals now more unlikely.
Well done to the BBC for showing later that Cleverley's assertions are untrue.
How does he have the nerve to stare down the camers lens and deny what other ministers have already admitted? There is no trust left globally in the UK's word. Trade deals now more unlikely.
Well done to the BBC for showing later that Cleverley's assertions are untrue.
112 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Oct 03 2020, 12:00
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Boris has come out with a statement saying that "it is now up to the EU" to agree a trade deal or not.
Just wondering on what planet that amounts to "taking back control"?
Just wondering on what planet that amounts to "taking back control"?
114 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Wed Oct 07 2020, 17:02
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Following on from Priti Patel's being defeated in the HOL on Monday it now seems Boris is set to make further concessions to the EU in order to salvage some sort of deal including retaining the Human Rights Act here.
This is significant inasmuch that it means that the UK will have to accept refugees and effectively is a concession of one of the key pillars of Brexit.
With further concessions on Fishing rights, the NI border and State Subsidies on the table it's starting to look like the Government will be conceding pretty much everything the Leave vote campaigned for.
Worse still, we'll be losing all 40 international trade deals and all the other benefits of being in the EU - and for what?
If as expected, these concessions are made, what will we have achieved?
This is significant inasmuch that it means that the UK will have to accept refugees and effectively is a concession of one of the key pillars of Brexit.
With further concessions on Fishing rights, the NI border and State Subsidies on the table it's starting to look like the Government will be conceding pretty much everything the Leave vote campaigned for.
Worse still, we'll be losing all 40 international trade deals and all the other benefits of being in the EU - and for what?
If as expected, these concessions are made, what will we have achieved?
115 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 08 2020, 15:44
sunlight
Andy Walker
The refugee rules are NATO and not to do with the EU.wanderlust wrote:Following on from Priti Patel's being defeated in the HOL on Monday it now seems Boris is set to make further concessions to the EU in order to salvage some sort of deal including retaining the Human Rights Act here.
This is significant inasmuch that it means that the UK will have to accept refugees and effectively is a concession of one of the key pillars of Brexit.
With further concessions on Fishing rights, the NI border and State Subsidies on the table it's starting to look like the Government will be conceding pretty much everything the Leave vote campaigned for.
Worse still, we'll be losing all 40 international trade deals and all the other benefits of being in the EU - and for what?
If as expected, these concessions are made, what will we have achieved?
Anyone whom voted to come out of the EU in order to control borders from refugees did so in ignorance.
It hasnt got anything to do with the EU.
To stop the regugees would require us to come out of NATO.
116 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 08 2020, 16:37
sunlight
Andy Walker
Is it me or should Kier Starmer be telling us when something is bollocks?
117 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 08 2020, 17:01
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
No, its not you. To date, Keir Starmers effect on the political world peaked with his acceptance speech, and its all been downhill since then.
118 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 08 2020, 17:05
sunlight
Andy Walker
gloswhite wrote:No, its not you. To date, Keir Starmers effect on the olitical world peaked with his acceptance speech, and its all been downhill since then.
Are we saying he is another Tory that has infiltrated the Labour Party? I was pondering this when I saw he was a " Sir ".
119 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 08 2020, 17:19
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
The moment I saw John Prescott wearing his finery, my heart sank.sunlight wrote:
Are we saying he is another Tory that has infiltrated the Labour Party? I was pondering this when I saw he was a " Sir ".
120 Re: How is the Tory government doing? Thu Oct 08 2020, 17:20
sunlight
Andy Walker
boltonbonce wrote:
The moment I saw John Prescott wearing his finery, my heart sank.
Lordy!
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