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1the problem with fake accounts Empty the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:28

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Everyone has a writing style and unfortunately it is really easy to tell who is who as no one can maintain two styles all the time. Think it maybe time for a clean up sluffy.

i know its good having more posts and people registered etc but it is fucking tedious having the same arguement with the same person but them using multiple accounts.

2the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:30

Michael Bolton

Michael Bolton
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@y2johnny wrote:Everyone has a writing style and unfortunately it is really easy to tell who is who as no one can maintain two styles all the time.  Think it maybe time for a clean up sluffy.

i know its good having more posts and people registered etc but it is fucking tedious having the same arguement with the same person but them using multiple accounts.


Who exactly has multiple accounts?

3the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:33

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Guest
Yawn

4the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:34

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Guest
Silence from the mods is deafening.

5the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:34

Michael Bolton

Michael Bolton
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@y2johnny wrote:Yawn

God you're a knob.

6the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:36

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Guest
Zzzzzzzzz

7the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:43

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
bwfc1874 wrote:Silence from the mods is deafening.
It's Boxing day and I would assume that most folk will be spending time with their familes doing other things than being on a forum!

8the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:47

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@karlypants wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:Silence from the mods is deafening.
It's Boxing day and I would assume that most folk will be spending time with their familes doing other things than being on a forum!

Clearly you're not one of said folk though, so looking forward to hearing your views.

9the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:48

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
@karlypants wrote:It's Boxing day and I would assume that most folk will be spending time with their familes doing other things than being on a forum!


I don't know.

After Christmas day most of us like to get away from them, that's why there's a full fixture list on Boxing day.  Very Happy

10the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:49

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@karlypants wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:Silence from the mods is deafening.
It's Boxing day and I would assume that most folk will be spending time with their familes doing other things than being on a forum!

They have absolutely no right to do that, they should be on here listening to people whingeing about people having multiple accounts.

(I'll log onto my other account to agree with myself, then log on with my  other other account to call myself a cock to even it up)

11the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 17:59

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Smile

12the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 18:02

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Well there are 571 registered users on this site.

If you got rid of the multiple accounts then the number wouldn't be above 50.  Very Happy

13the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 18:03

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
bwfc1874 wrote:Silence from the mods is deafening.

Very Happy

Just six minutes from the start of the thread - give us chance!

Tbh I don't have a problem with a fake accounts per se, it's when a person runs multiple fake accounts the problems start.

Despite what some might think there does have to be some sort of a balance between allowing people to have fun and being perscriptive about things.

We are after all internet based and it is more the norn for people to 'act' drifferently on it then be their real life selves on it.

I'm too old and lack the imagination, originality, or spontaneity to be other than who I am nor do I want to be rude or abusive to anyone, so I have no need to have a fake account to hide behind.

There is also only so much we can actually do to stop people coming on here if they are determined enough to keep doing so and also we haven't gone to all the trouble to set up and run a forum simply to censor people and ban them for what they say and do - unless of course it crosses the line too many times or is illegal.

Even then I for one don't believe that people can't learn their lesson and change their behaviour (or at least whilst on the forum).

I'm banned from a number of other BWBC forums - my crime - that of simply being honest, open and fair!

Once we start banning people simply because we don't like them, then that's the time for truly criticising the site.

As for having a few obvious fake accounts - then what is the problen - simply block them or ignore them - it's easy enough to do on here.



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14the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 18:04

Mr Magoo

Mr Magoo
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@karlypants wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:Silence from the mods is deafening.
It's Boxing day and I would assume that most folk will be spending time with their familes doing other things than being on a forum!
Shagging Very Happy

15the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 19:39

Banks of the Croal


Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Wish I could work out how to do another account,  I could be.

Very Fucking Angry Dad.
Not Michael Bolton.
Shedman
Copper Pipe
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy  



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16the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 19:47

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The ironic thing about this thread is the person it is aimed at (Michael Bolton) is actually one of the original BBC 606 posters from about 10 years ago and is definitely not a fake or multiple account.

17the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 19:57

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
How many have you got Nastase?

Go on be honest.

18the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 20:04

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Just two. This one and "sluffy".

19the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 20:09

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Only two eh, I've got four and i'm in the process of creating a fifth one.

20the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 20:15

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Not a bad idea. I'm about to create Angry Mum.

21the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 20:17

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Oi that's mine, Natasha!

22the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Fri Dec 26 2014, 21:35

Bollotom2014

Bollotom2014
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I'm Angry Mum  Evil or Very Mad

23the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 00:38

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Anything I post on this thread is probably going to be interpreted as me just being bitter about how Scott or AD or both (if they're the same person) have been allowed back on here through the back door, so I can't win but hear me out.

As I said during the whole, interminable "Should Scott be allowed back?" saga, which bored the pants off us all over seven pages of comments, I genuinely don't give a fuck.

If the site ownership want him back and are prepared to ignore the fact that he flouted their rules, that's up to them -it's not my site and I really don't care.

But getting back to the initial question posed, fake accounts can be classed in two categories:

Funny, comic creations which are designed to make people laugh and provoke discussion and generally keep the site ticking along

and

Previously banned contributors who have fucked up and are desperate to be allowed back in.

And the Mods on here would do well to understand that differentiation and base their decisions on it.

It's not all about how many people you've got signed up and how may inane threads they start, it's about what they "genuinely" contribute and how inviting it makes your site look to potential new members.

But what do I know....?

24the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 00:44

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Stop getting at me Breadman, I don't really have four other accounts.  Very Happy

25the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 01:06

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Dingle idiot....! Very Happy

Stop making this about you, you needy hill-dwelling fool......!

The people in charge know who I'm getting at.

Anyway, shouldn't you be outside in your garden about now, offering up a sacrificial lamb or something in the hope that the Sun rises again over Pendle Hill tomorrow?

It is, afterall,  that time of year.

Dark nights, short days, no points won on the road (or on't Turf), cattle fretting, Dyche sweating, chickens falling over and all that shit........

Very Happy

26the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 02:15

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
When we started Nuts up our honest view was that we didn't really we had much of a long term future because forums were even than a bit old hat and that they had already been overtaken by Facebook and Twitter in the mass popular social networking markets.

There were already a number of very well established BWFC forums in existence and the one set up immeadiately just before us (White Hot iirc) had just jacked in.

As I keep saying, we set Nuts up for a laugh amongst three old time forum members who had all for one reason or another 'left' other sites and we simply decided that if other forums didn't want us, then we set up our own and open the doors to anyone who wanted to join us.

We immeadiately hit a brick wall when we were sabotaged (honestly we were) by not one but TWO seperate owners of BWFC forums and banned from advertising on all the others apart from two (Mad and JA606) who both have since gone back on their word and banned me from posting on their respective sites to boot - both without giving any notice of their actions either.

We did advertise on the Bolton News forum but as it was not modded we had no one to ask for permission to do so first.

We did not (like one forum likes to claim) bribe anybody to come here with offers of becoming a mod, nor did we systematically poach anyone from any other site - although I had the opportunity and the means to do so if I was that way inclined.  We by the main let people come and find us - usually in the begining by word of mouth.

Over the span of our existence it became clear that the majority of anybody joining us and becoming regular posters on here were usually posters from other forums that seem to like us that bit more than the forums they had been posting on.  

There is simply no untapped reservior of potential forum posters out there to swell our ranks, so the best we can do is to make our site the best we can and hope others, who visit other forums, like us enough to come and join in with the fun and news on here.

To this end some of us have worked long and hard to gain NewsNow membership so that we can 'officially' get our name out there into the BWFC community.

Well we've achieved that and I dare say the majority of most if not all of the other BWFC forums readers now know of our existence even if they have not visited us personally themselves.

So until or unless myself and the other people behind the scenes can find even more of our personal time (for free remember) to invest in the site to make it even more better than we have it now, or others come forward to want to help us to do it - and God knows we've asked enough times in the past - then we are what we are - a forum that trys to be open to everyone (whatever the views and opinions that you hold), that likes to have a laugh amongst ourselves, whilst we follow our football team from season to season.

Of course we simply can't keep everybody happy all the time and people can and do kick off with others but we try to calm things down and mend fences when we can.

We don't want to ban anyone though, we don't want to lose posters either, so what we do is to warn people (numerous times) when they go too far, until it gets to the point when they simply won't listen to us and we finally have to do something to make things we don't like, stop.

Well we've got to that point now with Scott I believe that he now has stopped.

NOT at the point he was banned though BUT at the point he realised what he has lost and now has given his word to the effect that if he was allowed back he'd cut out all the shit with you.  

You've won if you like and Scott was always wrong to have abused you.

Obviously it takes some of us far longer than others until the penny finally drops.

Clearly however you don't think he can change - but I do.

So which of us is right?

There is of course only one way to find out.

And yes he has called us both names in the very recent past but speaking for myself - so what.

I was always taught that sticks and stones may break my bones but words (especially from some anonymous poster on the internet who I will ever meet in my life) will never hurt me.

There's plenty of ways of you two can easily keeping apart on here if you wanted too so why not give him one last life?

No, we aren't going to lose any possible new member from joining over this, if anything I'd like to think others may see us as the only forum that isn't so petty and vindictive enough to take internet spats personal enough to bare permanent grudges.

So what better time than Christmas to allow the return of our prodigal son so to speak, knowing that he's on his last and final warning?

Seems the right and proper thing to do to me.

One final chance.

What's to lose?

27the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 04:06

Keegan

Keegan
Moderator
Moderator
Let me log in as 'Breadman' and reply...

https://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

28the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 10:13

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So can he log in as him self note then?

29the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 10:38

bryan458

bryan458
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@Bollotom2014 wrote:I'm Angry Mum  Evil or Very Mad

I'm angry Mum, and so is my wife!!!!!! Laughing

30the problem with fake accounts Empty Re: the problem with fake accounts on Sat Dec 27 2014, 12:34

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
damn can't remember if I am logged in as Breadman or Natasha - of am I Amos, at the moment?



Confirmed - I am Amos!

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