Sports Shield ready to walk away from Wanderers takeover talks/ ST bid to buy club

y2johnny wrote:Norpig is their bolton nuts rep now

 i think i may be stepping down from that role Johnny 

Chairmanda wrote:

Breadman wrote:
And I keep reading comments from people who say they've expressed an interest in helping but not even received the courtesy of a reply, so as far as we know, it's just the five on their website plus whoever else their cabal decides to enlist behind the scenes (like Hurst) running the show.

I tried to engage, not being arrogant, but think I have some good recent experience I could bring to the table, from both a clubs and a supporters buy out perspective. I did at least get a reply, but in no way was it inclusive, welcoming, or in any way encouraged my participation. Fair enough, they may have thought I had nothing to bring (they are wrong) but at the very least as someone with previous for ploughing money into a football club, and who had a season ticket at burnden from age 4, (both facts I made them aware of, didn't expect them to know) you'd have thought they would have at least tried to keep me on board.

they should be biting your hand off Manda with all your football business experience. The more i read the more i'm being put off

It's Jon from now on, not Johnny.

Norpig wrote:
they should be biting your hand off Manda with all your football business experience. The more i read the more i'm being put off

Her history of being a Liberal Democrat goes against her.

Norpig wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:

Breadman wrote:
And I keep reading comments from people who say they've expressed an interest in helping but not even received the courtesy of a reply, so as far as we know, it's just the five on their website plus whoever else their cabal decides to enlist behind the scenes (like Hurst) running the show.

I tried to engage, not being arrogant, but think I have some good recent experience I could bring to the table, from both a clubs and a supporters buy out perspective. I did at least get a reply, but in no way was it inclusive, welcoming, or in any way encouraged my participation. Fair enough, they may have thought I had nothing to bring (they are wrong) but at the very least as someone with previous for ploughing money into a football club, and who had a season ticket at burnden from age 4, (both facts I made them aware of, didn't expect them to know) you'd have thought they would have at least tried to keep me on board.

they should be biting your hand off Manda with all your football business experience. The more i read the more i'm being put off

Fully agree.

If there's one regular on any BWFC related forum anywhere who actually has the necessary skill set for a situation like this one, it's Manda.

Idiots.

Breadman wrote:

Norpig wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:

Breadman wrote:
And I keep reading comments from people who say they've expressed an interest in helping but not even received the courtesy of a reply, so as far as we know, it's just the five on their website plus whoever else their cabal decides to enlist behind the scenes (like Hurst) running the show.

I tried to engage, not being arrogant, but think I have some good recent experience I could bring to the table, from both a clubs and a supporters buy out perspective. I did at least get a reply, but in no way was it inclusive, welcoming, or in any way encouraged my participation. Fair enough, they may have thought I had nothing to bring (they are wrong) but at the very least as someone with previous for ploughing money into a football club, and who had a season ticket at burnden from age 4, (both facts I made them aware of, didn't expect them to know) you'd have thought they would have at least tried to keep me on board.

they should be biting your hand off Manda with all your football business experience. The more i read the more i'm being put off

Fully agree.

If there's one regular on any BWFC related forum anywhere who actually has the necessary skill set for a situation like this one, it's Manda.

Idiots.

Exactly. Shameful. The st can do one now. I'm out

What names do we have now in the st. Time for a full breakdown of each one i think

y2johnny wrote:

Breadman wrote:

Norpig wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:

Breadman wrote:
And I keep reading comments from people who say they've expressed an interest in helping but not even received the courtesy of a reply, so as far as we know, it's just the five on their website plus whoever else their cabal decides to enlist behind the scenes (like Hurst) running the show.

I tried to engage, not being arrogant, but think I have some good recent experience I could bring to the table, from both a clubs and a supporters buy out perspective. I did at least get a reply, but in no way was it inclusive, welcoming, or in any way encouraged my participation. Fair enough, they may have thought I had nothing to bring (they are wrong) but at the very least as someone with previous for ploughing money into a football club, and who had a season ticket at burnden from age 4, (both facts I made them aware of, didn't expect them to know) you'd have thought they would have at least tried to keep me on board.

they should be biting your hand off Manda with all your football business experience. The more i read the more i'm being put off

Fully agree.

If there's one regular on any BWFC related forum anywhere who actually has the necessary skill set for a situation like this one, it's Manda.

Idiots.

Exactly. Shameful. The st can do one now. I'm out

I've got to fully agree about this too.

Even in the extremely unlikely event that they thought Manda could not help even with her extensive current knowledge about the football world of a club and her almost unique position of being a recent former football club chairman who just happens to be Bolton born and bread and a season ticket holder of many years who wants to help in anyway she can - how the hell do they justify not keeping her on board when they are made aware that she is one of the few people who have actually put substantial amounts of their own personal money into a football club and would very much likely do the same to here at Bolton???

It beggars belief really and you do truly have to wonder what agenda they are really working to as it clearly is not about the 'no strings attached' future of the club - is it?

how do i cancel my ST membership? 

Norpig wrote:how do i cancel my ST membership? 

Seriously?

Does anyone seriously think that the ST will play a significant role in the future of BWFC or even have a significant shareholding?

I think it's just a big red herring, promulgated by the Bolton News to sell papers. They will either be a puppet or irrelevant.

Which is why I'm not too upset by this article claiming that Deano is ready to walk. The BN has published all sorts of scaremongering nonsense over the last few months designed to get the fans moaning and cattle prod the potential buyers into accepting EDs terms. We've heard it all: the players won't get paid, the staff won't get paid, the club will have to sell the better players, there are multiple buyers all vying to buy the club, the ST will buy the club - you name it, they've written it. And a lot of papers have been sold and a lot of fans have been well and truly wound up by it.

But if Deano's lot have met EDs famous criteria, and there is a new problem I can't imagine they'd waste all the effort they've put in to date without trying to resolve this (hopefully) final issue.

Unless Deano's lot have been in some way underhanded in meeting the criteria or that there was a question over the figurers (surely they can't disagree after all this time?) I expect the deal to be concluded soon. And then the cutbacks will begin.

Breadman wrote:

If there's one regular on any BWFC related forum anywhere who actually has the necessary skill set for a situation like this one, it's Manda.

Hurtful.

y2johnny wrote:What names do we have now in the st.  Time for a full breakdown of each one i think

There are six of them

Richard Hurst (Chair of Steering Group)

Links to Gartside and Warburton

Crispy Cock (Steering Group member)

Former Labour Councillor for Westhoughton.

Mike Smith (Steering Group member)

Linked a closely sounding domain name of Nuts to a porn site in an effort to discredit and stop our site from taking off.

Ian Bridge (Steering Group member)

Involved in several dissolved and liquidated companies.


Jonny Eckersley (Social media guru)

Heavily involved with the Lion of Vienna site

Jamie Gregory (IT Support and Web Designer)

Twenty-one year old who posts pictures purporting to be of himself looking like a forty odd year old (very weird and very misleading / dishonest of him).



Now who can't fail to be impressed with that lot and want to pledge their money (and submit their personal details) to them!

i was all for it initially and even fought its corner on here an awful lot, i wasn't 100% serious to be honest but it needs to be more transparent and get the elections underway.

The treatment of Manda, who has an awful lot to offer seems crazy to me, i hope they do get back to her before the elections start and hope it's just an oversight

Sluffy wrote:

y2johnny wrote:What names do we have now in the st.  Time for a full breakdown of each one i think

There are six of them

Richard Hurst (Chair of Steering Group)

Links to Gartside and Warburton

Crispy Cock (Steering Group member)

Former Labour Councillor for Westhoughton.

Mike Smith (Steering Group member)

Linked a closely sounding domain name of Nuts to a porn site in an effort to discredit and stop our site from taking off.

Ian Bridge (Steering Group member)

Involved in several dissolved and liquidated companies.


Jonny Eckersley (Social media guru)

Heavily involved with the Lion of Vienna site

Jamie Gregory (IT Support and Web Designer)

Twenty-one year old who posts pictures purporting to be of himself looking like a forty odd year old (very weird and very misleading / dishonest of him).



Now who can't fail to be impressed with that lot and want to pledge their money (and submit their personal details) to them!

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. 

Just found out yet another skeleton about the Supporters Trust.

Did you know that Chris Peacock came into contact regularly with Gartside, Warburton and the newly appointed chair of the ST, Richard Hurst from May 2011 - from almost FIVE YEARS ago!!!

Peacock was appointed as a council representative to the Bolton Arena Trust between May 2011 to May 2014.

(click on the outside bodies tab on this link)

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Oh ma gad

Councillor for Bolton has contact with business directors from Bolton!

CONSPIRACY!

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My point was more 'jobs for the boys' rather than open it up to everyone.

Peacock knows GARTSIDE, Warburton and Hurst.

Hurst knows Peacock and GARTSIDE and Warburton.

Warburton knows Hurst, Peacock and GARTSIDE.

GARTSIDE knows Warburton, Peacock and Hurst.

All very cosy and incestuous to my way of thinking - hardly open and transparent really is it?

The Supporters Trust is made up of people nominated and then elected to said positions.

What you've posted is members of the steering group, who are (in theory) putting everything in place for the ST to start runnning in the next few months.

I'll be reserving judgement until that point rather than jumping on every opportunity possible to discredit what could still be a good chance to improve supporter/club communications.