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331Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 14:08

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Tomorrows vote has been cancelled apparently- so let's see what she comes up with next

332Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 14:11

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Let's be honest. It's only the left wing who have bed wetting tantrums and take to the streets with their socialist workers party signs. 

Those who voted for brexit, despite being utterly betrayed will continue to go to work and attempt to put food on their table.

We should however consider not voting in coming elections.

You're wrong there Hipster, i personally know people who went to London for knobhead Tommy's brexit march yesterday and they are most definitely right wing as i'm sick of hearing about on facebook.

333Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 14:18

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
We live in interesting times.

334Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 14:29

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
What gets my goat is that May's cronies are still insisting that the only option is a deal that nobody voted for and nobody wants.

And they are prepared to circumvent the law and our democratic rights to railroad it through for no other reason than their own political capital. That's going well isn't it?

335Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 14:34

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Interesting development. As more MPs are suggesting that scrapping Brexit remains an option, the question has been raised as to whether May can legally postpone the vote to avoid another defeat.

Apparently postponing a vote that has already been scheduled has to be decided by the house under Parliamentary rules.

Tory whips are launching their own "project fear" to try to get the rebels back in line as we speak.

336Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 16:53

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
May calls off the vote because she admits she won't win, but some MPs now want to have a vote on whether the vote should go ahead anyway.

It's no wonder this is such a mess with attitudes like this.



337Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 16:58

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Let's be honest. It's only the left wing who have bed wetting tantrums and take to the streets with their socialist workers party signs. 

Those who voted for brexit, despite being utterly betrayed will continue to go to work and attempt to put food on their table.

We should however consider not voting in coming elections.

You're wrong there Hipster, i personally know people who went to London for knobhead Tommy's brexit march yesterday and they are most definitely right wing as i'm sick of hearing about on facebook.

A very small minority of nob heads.

The left are prone to calling a protest every time someone spills their tea.

338Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 19:44

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
She’s made a rod for her own back pandering to the right of her party - there was no way to a do a deal and deliver that for them. She had to just walk away if she was serious about that.

Had she spent the last two years doing right by the country she could have got a softer Brexit deal - this 
in between us a waste of time for us all.

339Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 20:02

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
She made a rod for her own back by not properly negotiating alternatives to the EU deal. This has allowed the EU to make a total mockery of this country.

She's pandered to the right of her party by bringing back a deal so universally unpopular with them they're attempting to get her out.

340Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 20:12

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Those ‘red lines’ she set were for the right of her party. The EU was never going to do a deal that satisfied those limitations. So instead she’s buckled to the EU and come back with a terrible deal for everyone.

She should have made the case for the economy and negotiated a soft Brexit. It’s a lie to say there’s only one way to deliver on the referendum.

341Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 21:23

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
It's like a Whitehall farce. All that's missing is Brian Rix with his trousers round his ankles.

342Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 21:27

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Well we were told by the PM of the time that leave was a vote to leave the EU and all its constituent bodies. I think it was quite clear.

I think most leavers would now agree they couldn't care less at this point. They have no interest in what the people think about anything.

343Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 21:29

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Various figures in the leave campaign talked up Norway option. Too many different interpretations out here. At this point we should be leaving in the least damaging way for the country, at least in the short term.

344Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Dec 10 2018, 22:39

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
My view is......Fuck off May.

345Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 00:49

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
My view is what is happening was always going to happen due to promising a bunch of unattainable and unrealistic objectives to gain political traction BEFORE negotiations had even started.

346Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 08:48

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
May has delivered a masterclass in how not to negotiate.

Her latest last minute u-turn on the vote has made her a complete and utter joke. She is going to come back from Brussels with nothing and be defeated. She has no plan B. She is just delaying the inevitable.

347Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 10:31

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:May has delivered a masterclass in how not to negotiate.

Her latest last minute u-turn on the vote has made her a complete and utter joke. She is going to come back from Brussels with nothing and be defeated. She has no plan B. She is just delaying the inevitable.
Despite the EU having already stated that they will make no further concessions she's off to Brussels specifically to discuss the NI border - as if that's the only thing wrong with the deal she has struck.

Clearly this is an attempt to win back the support of the DUP so she would then be in a position to railroad the rest of it through.

As she's not even discussing the other problematic issues with the deal including the lost billions and future costs of Galileo, Gibraltar concessions to the Spanish, Channel port blockages, business uncertainty, broken cross border security arrangements etc - let alone the absence of trade deals - surely the British people can finally see that Brexit is not about EU withdrawal - it's about political maneuverings and power.

348Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 10:45

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Anyone seen the claim that Brexit will cost Britain £2 BILLION A WEEK? (Compared to the leave campaign's spurious £350 million cost of remaining claim)

Personally I think the claim is disputable - despite using the Government's own figures - as it centres on the Government's own downwardly revised growth figures.

Whilst the Government currently accepts that Brexit will damage growth in every region of Britain the extent of the damage Brexit will cause can be argued.

Surely the focus should be on the undisputable costs we already know about e.g. the lost investment in and cost of replacing Galileo (£25 to £30 billion) the cost of the new cross border security arrangements (yet TBA) the "divorce bill" (£39 billion) etc and then apply realistic assessment measures to start to work out the short, medium and long term costs. 
Otherwise the figures will be as rubbish as the leave campaign lies and nobody will believe them.

349Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 11:24

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:May has delivered a masterclass in how not to negotiate.

Her latest last minute u-turn on the vote has made her a complete and utter joke. She is going to come back from Brussels with nothing and be defeated. She has no plan B. She is just delaying the inevitable.

Mark my words, she will grasp victory from the jaws of defeat.

I'm currently scouting spots to place the life size Theresa May statue that I made out of papier mache.

350Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 11:28

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@xmiles wrote:May has delivered a masterclass in how not to negotiate.

Her latest last minute u-turn on the vote has made her a complete and utter joke. She is going to come back from Brussels with nothing and be defeated. She has no plan B. She is just delaying the inevitable.

Mark my words, she will grasp victory from the jaws of defeat.

I'm currently scouting spots to place the life size Theresa May statue that I made out of papier mache.

If shes ever within my arms length, I'm going to punch her in the face!

351Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 11:29

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:If shes ever within my arms length, I'm going to punch her in the face!

What a big man, punching a papier mache head.

352Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 11:30

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:If shes ever within my arms length, I'm going to punch her in the face!

What a big man, punching a papier mache head.

Razz

353Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 13:46

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
My solution to the Irish border would be to build a fuck off wall

354Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 13:55

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:My solution to the Irish border would be to build a fuck off wall

Reunite both Irelands and have done with it!

355Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 14:28

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The constant threats of violence from politicians on behalf of the Irish should simply be ignored.

356Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 15:23

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
What Macca said.

357Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 16:28

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
On a serious note: too many lives were lost during the troubles, just to put it to one side, in favour of one of the EU's demands.  The possible loss of even a single life should not be contemplated.
(Is this the thread I said I wouldn't read again, after my rant}?

358Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Tue Dec 11 2018, 20:55

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
So we should give in to the threat of terrorism. Deary me.

359Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Wed Dec 12 2018, 01:42

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Heard something on the radio about the Tory rebels feeling they have enough support to table a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister. Could be interesting.
Allegedly the wheels for a leadership challenge have already been set in motion.
Brush your hair Boris.

360Brexit negotiations - Page 12 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Wed Dec 12 2018, 08:45

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Its been announced just now that the no confidence limit has been reached. Not sure what good having a new PM will do at this stage as the EU are adamant that the current deal can't be renegotiated. Looks even more like we are going to get a no deal to me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46535739

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