T.R.O.Y. wrote:I’m a Labour Party member, think Starmer is doing fine so far but hasn’t needed to do much. Interestingly he’s winning over a lot of swing voters looking for a more steady ‘central’ option, which can only be a good thing. I’d prefer someone more left wing but it’s more important to be in power.
I don’t see the relevance to my point though. Do you actually have any points to make in relation to my response to Bob - because it feels like this is just drifting now.
Bob can speak for himself, I only chipped in because you seemed initially to me to suggest only the Tory's didn't play straight and when you clarified your remark, seemed to suggest the government was somehow purposely turning a blind eye of sorts to tax avoidance/government wastage of subsidies, to which I again attempted to enlighten you about how such matters work in practice rather than under the global banner of 'government'.
Personally I think Labour has thrown away a generation of power with the Corbyn ideological experiment as I would have expected Burnham to have rightfully become Labour Party leader and played a major role in supporting Remain in the referendum even possibly tilting the result in its favour - as opposed to Corbyn and Labours virtual anonymity during the campaigning leading up to the vote and even if the result had remained the same Burnham stood a chance of defeating the ineffectual May at the snap election and even if he had gone at that time and replaced, Starmer would have been preferable to Johnson than most I would suggest at the last election where Labour was crushed to death.
Instead as Starmer himself said, it looks as though Labour will be out of power for the next decade at least.
Was all that worth it for a left-wing ideological sojourn in opposition power that anyone with half a brain could tell you was completely unelectable by the vast majority of the electorate???
Christ you didn't need any Russian meddling in the elections or referendum when you had Corbyn and the Corbynistas standing against you to achieve a guaranteed win.
A wasted opportunity and the most damaging passage of political carnage in my lifetime, with an unwanted Brexit and right wing political activists dismantling/wrecking the Civil Service and moving towards Presidential type rule rather than Parliamentary democracy.
A hefty price to pay to try out a left wing dream that was doomed from the start.
I have hopes for Starmer but the damage has already been done.
I did like this bit of what you said though...
T.R.O.Y. wrote:I’d prefer someone more left wing but it’s more important to be in power.
First rule of politics - do what it takes to achieve power - see you're learning!
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