okocha wrote: Sluffy wrote:Why do you make things up?
Which developed countries had compulsory mask wearing in public early in the year? Certainly not Japan or South Korea.
In fact at the beginning the western world simply didn't have enough supplies of masks to do it even if they wanted too!
As for total lockdown we were less than a week behind France and Germany!
FranceOn 16 March, Macron announced mandatory home lockdown for 15 days starting at noon on
17 March. This was extended twice and ended on 11 May
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_FranceGermanyOn
20 March, Bavaria was the first state to declare a curfew, inspired by and identical to Austria, where it had been implemented four days before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_GermanyUKOn
23 March, having previously advised the public to avoid pubs and restaurants, Boris Johnson announced in a television broadcast that measures to mitigate the virus were to be tightened to protect the NHS, with wide-ranging restrictions on freedom of movement, enforceable in law, under a stay-at-home order which would last for at least three weeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_KingdomDo you simply forget things or is it just that you've seen something on social media in the last day or so and just repeat it without thinking?
Are you forgetting or overlooking Exercise Cygnus, re UK pandemic preparedness, drawn up in 20016, but not released or acted upon by the government until 2020?
Key complaints include: improper management of surge capacity, incomplete "silo planning between and within organisations", disorganised school closures, consistent lack of funding for care homes, inefficient public communication and lack of social distancing which were still unresolved during COVID-19.In a 2020 policy paper titled "UK pandemic preparedness", the Department of Health and Social Care states that it will continue to incorporate lessons learnt from Exercise Cygnus (2016) into future pandemic control protocol, coupling it with insight from COVID-19 (2019) response.
Eh???
I'm replying to the false statements made by Wanderlust nothing else but if you want to bring it something about how prepared we were for such a pandemic then why not compare us with other county's preparedness like the renownedly efficient Germans for instance...
Criticism over slow procurement of protective materials
As early as January 2020, the German Bundestag was fully informed about the dangers of the global spread of a coronavirus pandemic. A risk analysis predicted how dangerous a global coronavirus outbreak could be. It stated that "children [...] have [...] minor disease progressions" and that the risk of death of "over-65-year-olds [is] at 50%". It further stated that a "vaccine" is "unavailable", so all the more important is the "use of protective equipment such as protective masks, goggles and gloves". But until 24 March, the Federal Office of Civil Protection and Disaster Assistance [de] (BBK) had never set up appropriate stores or had talks with manufacturers and suppliers to prepare for such a situation, was the criticism of some experts.
Government reactionsJanuary
On 22 January 2020, the German government considered the spread of COVID-19 as a "very low health risk" for Germans and the virus in general as "far less dangerous" than SARS. New travel advisories would not be necessary.[110]
On 27 January, after the first infections in Germany, the government continued to regard the probability of a spread as "very low". Even if individual cases emerged, authorities would be able to treat them.[111]
At a press conference on 28 January, the Federal Minister of Health, Jens Spahn, stated that he was only worrying about conspiracy theories that were circulating on the Internet, and that the Federal Government would counter this problem through full transparency. Hotlines were established to calm down worried callers. After a case was suspected in a Lufthansa plane, the company suspended all flights to China.[112][113]
On
29 January, reports surged that masks were sold out. The government ordered pilots of flights from China to describe the health status of their passengers and ordered passengers to fill in a contact document. The government and health authorities expected more isolated cases but were confident to prevent further spread.
February
On 1 February, German Health Minister Spahn warned that people infected with the Coronavirus and their contacts might be stigmatised and be socially excluded. He emphasised that the Germans evacuated from China would all be healthy.[114]
On 13 February, at a meeting of EU Health Ministers, German Health Minister Spahn dismissed travel restrictions from or to China by single member states. He decidedly rejected measuring the temperature of inbound travellers.[115]
On 18 February, Foreign Minister Heiko Maas had 8.4 tons of protective gear and clothing as well as disinfectants sent to China. This was the second shipment after Germany had sent 5.4 tons of it to China during the evacuation of the GermansOn 29 February, it was reported that supermarket chains, such as Aldi and Lidl, had seen an increase in demand, particularly for tinned food, noodles, toilet paper (whose sales rose by 700% from February to March)[133] and disinfectants. The Ministry of Health of North Rhine-Westphalia advised against panic buying, especially of masks, medications and disinfectants, to leave them for those really in need, assuring there would be no shortage of supply even in the event of a quarantine.[134]
A day earlier, after recent drastic price hikes and shortages especially of masks, medications and disinfectants which were the result of a steep increase in demand, calls had been made to consumers to leave these products for hospitals and medical practicesMarch
On 3 March, the German National Association of Statutory Health Insurance Physicians, the Bavarian State Chamber of Medicine, the Bavarian Association of Paediatricians, and the Association of General Practitioners of Berlin and Brandenburg reported a lack of protection gear to handle COVID-19 casesOn 4 March, the crisis team considered the acquisition of more protection gear as an "extraordinary urgency". Germany prohibited the export of protection masks, gloves, and suits. North Rhine-Westphalia declared to order one million masks. To address the severe shortage of hand disinfectants, the Federal Agency for Chemicals within the Federal Institute for Occupational Safety and Health issued a general decree on 4 March which allowed pharmacies and pharmaceutical companies to produce and sell products based on isopropyl alcohol for this purpose.On 5 March, the German Federal Office for Citizen Protection and Disaster Support (BBK)
stated that the spread in Germany was "no catastrophe" and that citizens should prepare for real catastrophes instead. The leader of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom, expressed concern that some countries showed an unwillingness to act or gave up. He admonished all countries to raise their commitment to the level of the threatOn 6 March, the EU and Robert Koch Institute emphasised that masks and disinfectants should not be used by healthy private persons
On 13 March, Germany rushed to order 10,000 ventilators from Drägerwerk for intensive respiratory care, twice the order size of Italy and equivalent to the production of a whole year.[173] Germany entered talks for softening its export stop of protective gear for other European Union states.On 19 March, A German manufacturer of breathing masks for hospitals and doctors complained that his warnings in early February that masks were selling out and his offer to reserve masks for hospitals had remained unanswered by the health ministry. The ministry explained to the press that they had received the messages but deemed itself not responsible and that the numerous offers could not be replied to due to prioritisation. Some hospitals reported they were already facing shortages of protective gears.[202] A survey revealed that more than 80% of the doctors in private practice reported a lack of protective equipment.On 20 March, Lufthansa donated 920,000 breathing masks to the health authorities.On 22 March, Volkswagen bought medical equipment in China in a double-digit million euro range to donate it in Germany and intends to produce masks.
On 23 March, Stephan Pusch, the District Administrator of Heinsberg, asked the Chinese president for help with protective equipment, because the reserve of masks and protective gowns would last only a few more days.[220] Hospitals and doctors urged the government again to address the lack of masks and other protection gear. Berlin received 8000 masks from the nation's central provisioning, which would mean only one mask for every doctor's practice.[221] Of the ten million masks promised by Federal Health Minister Spahn, only 150,000 had arrived so far.[222] A transport plane arrived with masks and coronavirus test kits donated by Alibaba. Other Chinese tech companies like Oppo and Xiaomi also donated masks.[223] Beiersdorf delivered 6000 litres of disinfectants as part of a larger donation of 500 tons.On 24 March, a delivery of 6 million protective masks of type FFP-2 ordered by the German central provisioning to protect health workers was reported missing at an airport in Kenya.[225] They had been produced by a German company and it was unclear why they had been in Kenya.[226] 10 million protective masks had been ordered by the central provisioning altogether. The lack of protective equipment, especially of face masks and disinfectants, led hospitals to re-use disposable masks. Undertakers requested protective equipment and raising their status to being relevant for the system to get priority access to protective gear. Most dentists practices did not have FFP-2 masks and some considered closing their practices.[227] Several alcohol manufacturers started to deliver disinfectants or alcohol to pharmacies and hospitals. Klosterfrau Healthcare announced it would donate 100,000 litres of disinfectant and Jägermeister provided 50,000 litres of alcohol for producing disinfectantshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Germany#National_Pandemic_PlanDo I need to go on...?
But it's all the Tories fault for fucking everything up here...
Yeah, sure it was, and that's why every other country had plans and supplies to deal with the pandemic and we didn't!
All Boris and Cummings fault - yeah blame them.
Wouldn't have happened under a Labour government...
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