wanderlust wrote:Hancock has just had the dreaded "vote of confidence"
from Bozo. Nothing more. No discussion, claims or answers so it looks like his handlers have closed him down and the distancing has begun.
I know it it isn't your thing at all but shall we jusy list out the allegation and the facts before joining the lynch mob?
ALLEGATIONIn his testimony to a select committee on Wednesday, Mr Cummings said: "We were told categorically in March that people would be tested before they went back to care homes. We only subsequently found out that that hadn't happened.
"The government rhetoric was we put a shield around care homes - it was complete nonsense.
"Quite the opposite of putting a shield around them,
we sent people with Covid back to the care homes."FACT1 - How many people were sent from hospitals back to care homes -The decision to allow hospital patients in England to be discharged to care homes without Covid-19 tests at the start of the pandemic has been described as "reckless" by MPs.
The Public Accounts Committee said there had clearly been an "emerging problem" with official advice before it was "belatedly" changed in April.
It accused ministers of being slow to support social care during the crisis.
The government said it had been "working closely" with the sector.
The committee said around 25,000 patients were discharged into care homes in England between mid-March and mid-April to free up hospital beds.
After initially saying a negative result was not required before discharging patients, the government later said on 15 April all patients would be tested.
In a highly critical report, the cross-party committee said the initial decision to allow untested patients into care homes was an "appalling error".The committee says that, by September, the government should review which care homes took discharged patients, and how many went on to have outbreaks.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-535742652 - How many people actually died as a result -The PHE Epidemiology Cell (Epi Cell) developed a process to derive residential property
classifications of laboratory confirmed COVID-19 cases in collaboration with the PHE
GIS Cell. This facilitated identification of cases residing in care homes. Hospital
discharge records were linked to these records to identify care home residents who may
have acquired their COVID-19 infection whilst in hospital and subsequent to their
discharge, their care homes experienced an outbreak of COVID-19. In summary:
• from 30 January to 12 October 2020, there were a total of 43,398 care home
residents identified with a laboratory confirmed positive COVID-19 test result
• of these, 35,760 (82.4%) were involved in an outbreak, equivalent to a total of 5,882
outbreaks
•
1.6% (n=97) of outbreaks were identified as potentially seeded from hospital
associated COVID-19 infection, with a total of 806 (1.2%) care home residents with
confirmed infection associated with these outbreaks• the majority of these potentially hospital-seeded care home outbreaks were identified
in March to mid-April 2020, with none identified from the end of July until September
where a few recent cases have emerged
The findings of this report suggest hospital associated seeding accounted for a small
proportion of all care home outbreaks. Policies on systematic testing prior to hospital
discharge for patients discharged to care homes were introduced on 15 April 2020. This
may have supported the decline seen in these types of outbreaks, contributing to an
overall reduction in care home cases.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/983349/Data_linkage_approach_to_assessing_the_contribution_of_hospital-associated_SARS-CoV-2_infection_to_care_home_outbreaks_in_England.pdf#page4The diagram on page 10 of the report (which I can't seem to copy and paste on to here for some reason?) states this resulted in
286 deaths.
3 - What was the actual cause of the vast bulk of care home deaths from Covid?Speaking to the BBC, committee chair Meg Hillier acknowledged there had been limited data about the virus when early decisions were made; however she said there was also a long-term lack of understanding at the health department about how the care sector works.
"The fact that there are people on low pay not taking sick leave, moving from home to home were things that were risk elements - if you had better understanding of any impact of any disease on a care home you would have understood the implications," she said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-535742654 - What testing capacity did the nation have at the start of the pandemicIn its evidence to the committee, Public Health England said nationwide testing capacity was limited to 3,500 tests per day at the start of the crisis.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53574265Conclusions from the above.1 - Did Hancock lie about sending hospital patients back to care homes without a test in March as Cummings claim?
So far we don't know.
2 - How many deaths did hospital returns to care homes actually cause -
286.