Public Sector Pay Rises: The End?

bwfc71 wrote:

Did you know that those in the public sector pay 40% of their wage towards their pension each month?  

waynagain wrote:

bwfc71 wrote:

waynagain wrote:

scottjames30 wrote:

bwfc71 wrote:I just hope either your binmen, traffic enforcers, judges, social workers, magistrates, council tax officers, passport controllers, local police officers, sewage cleaners etc etc  are reading this crap.

You moan if they do not do their job, you moan if you think there are not enough of them, you moanabout thsi that and the other and now this.....

What will you do if they were all made unemployed - who will empty your bins, who will resurface the roads, who will collect the taxes from businesses and council tax, who will make sure children cross the road safely, who will look after the streets, try to keep on top of crime, who will look after teh criminals if there are no prisons, who will check the passports at passport control, who will give legal aid? who willkeep the parks neat and tidy and safe, who will keep grass verges at a low level, who will keep the streets lights in good condition, who will paint the white lines on the roads

Publis servants do a hell of a lot of stuff which you all take for granted and yet you think you are fit to call them useless.

Basic truth is, as I have been on both sides of the fence is that in teh private sector there is far too much wastage, far too much chatter between work colleagues, far too many cigarette breaks, far too many lazying around doing sweet FA, messing around on football forums and other websites instead of doing some work.  Yes the Private sector is far superior to teh public sector - not!!!


One more thing, Natasha, as you are a business woman and supposedly up there with all teh big names, is your company ready to give pensiosn to ALL your own staff by 2015, as that will be required for ALL businesses to do by law!

The public sector do jobs that no company from teh private sector would ever do - or by law are not allowed due to wanting neutrality.  If it wasn't for the public sector would you be alive today, would you be safe and sound, would you be healthy and would you be able to read and write???

Well said Chris.

Pay raises in both private and public sectors should be based on performance. Why should somebody in the same position who is a slacker get the same pay raise as a person who workrs hard - only the slacker would agree with that.

So would you be happy not to have a pay-rise for 4 years, as its frozen, and in reality your pay will have fallen by about 7.5%?

The rate-of-inflation payrise should be the minimum anyone, and everyone, should get each year due to increasing costs of living!

The majority of Public Sector workers are overpaid when compaired to Private Sector workers doing a similar job, and even with a 4 year pay freeze they would still be making more.

bwfc71 wrote:

Did you know that those in the public sector pay 40% of their wage towards their pension each month?  How much, percentage wise, from your salary,do you pay towards your pension, or will you be relying on state pension which is paid for by everyone???

Again you ought to be alert about pensions as by end 2015 anyone in work, whether public or private, will have a pension paid for by the employers, which will be funded by the tax-payer, as well as paying towards the State pension!!!  Your attitude will change.

Norpig wrote:a lot of public sector bashing on here. I work for the NHS and we do have increments built into our pay scales. If you start a new job you start at the bottom of the scale and as you learn the job and progress you do receive an increment each year.

We also have appraisals so if someone is not doing their job properly they can be held back until they have shown an improvement. I am at the top of my scale now so don't receive any more increments, also as mentioned by someone else Public sector worker have had no cost of living pay rises for the last few years and only this year received a 1% increase, nowhere near the level of inflation! So in effect i am being paid less than i was say 4 years ago due to rising inflation.

wanderlust wrote:The point of "cost of living" rises is to ensure that people's standard of living doesn't decline. But surely the whole point of austerity is that we have to accept a reduction in our standard of living? When the country is skint and heavily in debt then maintaining existing standards of living does nothing to pay off the debt. How that burden is shared is a different question, but historically the vast majority of private sector employees don't get a "cost of living" rise. You either do the job for whatever the employer is willing to pay you or fuck off - and there's no union to protect you.

Natasha Whittam wrote: Public workers seem to think they should be immune from reality.

scottjames30 wrote:What part of the public service do you work in then ?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

scottjames30 wrote:What part of the public service do you work in then ?

I don't. But I deal with them every day and the wastage is unbelievable.

scottjames30 wrote:
Are they really that bad ?

This government are starting to hit them hard.