When do you think a deal will be done

wanderlust wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:How can we not pay a tax bill? Surely the powers that be must have known about it long beforehand? /

you would think so RT. I know the zeros are very different, but the principles the same even at non league level, and I had a pot which accrued VAT as it happened so that at the end of a quarter we could pay it and no matter what the manager said about all his players having broken legs and being able to sign Messi for a couple of quid (exaggerating for effect) that money was completely ring fenced for HMRC. Whist sounding a bit sanctimonious, I never never never didn't pay anyone at the club, despite the fact I was Chair, not owner. Football is a business, but should aspire to be a business run to the highest standards, not sink to the levels of the most unethical.

Despite not knowing the facts, there is certainly some question over the ethics and/or competence of the management.
At first glance it does appear that there may be an element of burying heads in the sand going on. Whether this is maliciously intentional or just denial we can only guess at.
Although one of the several alternative explanations could be that if ED has drawn a line in the sand as to further investment in BWFC his position could be that either the new owners will have to take responsibility for debts and wages or administrators deal with it.
It will all come to light eventually.

couldn't agree more wanders, we have no idea what happens behind closed doors. All i was trying to say is I cant conceive of a good reason that the output of those discussions is staff not being paid

So has it been confirmed that the staff won't be paid or is it simply some sad journo speculating on the obvious? (Hardly speculating - it's just likely unless someone coughs up (they probably will) or the takeover is completed.)
As far as I'm aware, the December payment isn't due yet so no staff haven't been paid.

boltonbonce wrote:Don't mention chutney on here. I run a mile at the sight of it.

Chairmanda wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:How can we not pay a tax bill? Surely the powers that be must have known about it long beforehand? /

you would think so RT. I know the zeros are very different, but the principles the same even at non league level, and I had a pot which accrued VAT as it happened so that at the end of a quarter we could pay it and no matter what the manager said about all his players having broken legs and being able to sign Messi for a couple of quid (exaggerating for effect) that money was completely ring fenced for HMRC. Whist sounding a bit sanctimonious, I never never never didn't pay anyone at the club, despite the fact I was Chair, not owner. Football is a business, but should aspire to be a business run to the highest standards, not sink to the levels of the most unethical.

Despite not knowing the facts, there is certainly some question over the ethics and/or competence of the management.
At first glance it does appear that there may be an element of burying heads in the sand going on. Whether this is maliciously intentional or just denial we can only guess at.
Although one of the several alternative explanations could be that if ED has drawn a line in the sand as to further investment in BWFC his position could be that either the new owners will have to take responsibility for debts and wages or administrators deal with it.
It will all come to light eventually.

couldn't agree more wanders, we have no idea what happens behind closed doors. All i was trying to say is I cant conceive of a good reason that the output of those discussions is staff not being paid

So has it been confirmed that the staff won't be paid or is it simply some sad journo speculating on the obvious? (Hardly speculating - it's just likely unless someone coughs up (they probably will) or the takeover is completed.)
As far as I'm aware, the December payment isn't due yet so no staff haven't been paid.

they are due to be paid on 21st, and have been told there is "no guarantee" they will be. I'm guessing club is doing this so that if they are in a position to do so, the affected staff don't rely on that payment for mortgage, bills, Xmas presents, etc, were they to have that money sitting around somewhere they can transfer it to a current account.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:How many clubs have actually been wound up?

Norpig wrote:with the way our luck we are sure to be the first big name club. Other ones i remember from a few years ago was Chester, Rushden & Diamonds (i think?) and Scarborough but they were lower down the leagues than us

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Pretty sure all those clubs are still going are they not.

luckyPeterpiper wrote:The fuss is (rightly) over HMRC now lusty. 

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I don't think we will be wound up anyway, but it proves there is life for a club after this situation.

wanderlust wrote:

luckyPeterpiper wrote:The fuss is (rightly) over HMRC now lusty. 

As far as I know, HMRC have not applied for a winding up order.

So the fuss appears to be over a rumour started by journos.

Norpig wrote:i'm sure we could get a game on at Shepherd Cross St fields, they have a few pitches there

luckyPeterpiper wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I don't think we will be wound up anyway, but it proves there is life for a club after this situation.

Only if someone WANTS to reform the club and put money into it. In this area that might be a dicey proposition. Look where we are geographically, at the number of other clubs close by including Man Utd, Man City, Blackburn, Burnley, Preston, Accrington Stanley, Bury and Rochdale to name just a few. I think if we did reform it would be well out of the league, somewhere down at Northern Premier level and we'd have to find a new ground and build new facilities. Even if it had the Bolton Wanderers name it would be a totally new club rebuilding from scratch. How many of the thirteen or fourteen thousand who turned up for the Cardiff match do you think would show up to watch us play, say Bamber bridge?