HomeA modern Labour supporter is out of touch with reality.gloswhite wrote:I believe the Labour Party has an outdated view of what a typical Labour supporter is, and what they want.
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141 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 14:36
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142 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 14:44
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
This is very true.Cajunboy wrote:A modern Labour supporter is out of touch with reality.gloswhite wrote:I believe the Labour Party has an outdated view of what a typical Labour supporter is, and what they want.
What do the Labourites on here think a modern Labour supporter is.
143 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 14:54
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
boltonbonce wrote:Thornberry and Lewis will go out in the first round.
Thornberry made it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51089217
144 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 14:55
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Blimey, she was 12 short the last I heard. She's got no chance anyway.
145 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 14:59
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She could be the dark horse that comes up on the rails in the last furlong.
neigh!!!
neigh!!!
146 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 15:00
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boltonbonce wrote:This is very true.Cajunboy wrote:A modern Labour supporter is out of touch with reality.gloswhite wrote:I believe the Labour Party has an outdated view of what a typical Labour supporter is, and what they want.
What do the Labourites on here think a modern Labour supporter is.
147 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 15:22
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
I doubt Labour MP's would want Thornberry representing them after her errors and God-awful childish approach to confrontation.
As an aside, I've seen two clips of her talking about the plane crash. In the first she said 173 perished, in the second she said 174. If that's the sort of accuracy we can expect, when 178 died, then I doubt she will last long if she has to undergo the scrutiny Boris has been through.
As an aside, I've seen two clips of her talking about the plane crash. In the first she said 173 perished, in the second she said 174. If that's the sort of accuracy we can expect, when 178 died, then I doubt she will last long if she has to undergo the scrutiny Boris has been through.
148 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 15:46
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I like Thornberry, good debater and makes a mockery of her opposite numbers when standing in for PMQs. She won’t win though, and I don’t think she’d win an election - but nice to see her get through.
149 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 18:09
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
I see Jess Phillips is now trying to run away from her centrist credentials pretendingshe's a socialist.
Starmer is pretending he's a centrist.
You couldn't make it up.
What an utterly pathetic line up completely void of talent. Thorberry makes my blood boil.
Starmer is pretending he's a centrist.
You couldn't make it up.
What an utterly pathetic line up completely void of talent. Thorberry makes my blood boil.
150 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 18:32
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
"What an utterly pathetic line up completely void of talent" is a perfect description of the current Tory front bench.
151 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 18:44
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Incredibly the tabloid media seem more bothered about smearing potential labour leaders than scrutinising this government.
Meanwhile Nicky Morgan bypasses democracy by being sworn into the House of Lords.
Almost as if they’re biased.
Meanwhile Nicky Morgan bypasses democracy by being sworn into the House of Lords.
Almost as if they’re biased.
152 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 19:06
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Well the mail is obviously bias. Just like the mirror and guardian are bias the other way.
I'd read the later two if you want to see a load of ego stroking for the labour front runners.
I'd read the later two if you want to see a load of ego stroking for the labour front runners.
153 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 19:40
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."
The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations.
Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.
The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations.
Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.
154 Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 19:56
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Munira Mirza, director of the No 10 policy unit, was a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party, a party sympathetic to the IRA. She also wrote for its journal, Living Marxism.Hipster_Nebula wrote:I see Jess Phillips is now trying to run away from her centrist credentials pretendingshe's a socialist.
Starmer is pretending he's a centrist.
You couldn't make it up.
What an utterly pathetic line up completely void of talent. Thorberry makes my blood boil.
She's never hidden her past. You can't.
155 Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 01:18
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
.. and it is the only paper with my daily fix of jigsawdoku and has a decent cryptic crossword.okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."
Plus it has all the news stories summarised in concise paragraphs at the front.
Bargain!
156 Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 07:30
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."
The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations.
Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.
No one reads newspapers. Their circulation is tiny. They have zero influence. Left wing politicians just use them as an excuse to cover up their own failings.
157 Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 08:15
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Hipster_Nebula wrote:okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."
The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations.
Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.
No one reads newspapers. Their circulation is tiny. They have zero influence. Left wing politicians just use them as an excuse to cover up their own failings.
Complete bollocks! The Mail and Sun sell well over a million copies every day and each copy is often read by more than one person.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiCgdLJ0oLnAhWHWhUIHe3SA2oQFjAAegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F529060%2Fuk-newspaper-market-by-circulation%2F&usg=AOvVaw18sXAjLpdJJt7tFxR791qb
158 Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 08:32
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
I still get a daily newspaper, but it's mainly out of habit. Most of the news has already been covered on the internet by the time they emerge. Always a few good articles though.
The heyday of the press is long gone, but they still have a part to play. Sadly, most of them are only fit for lining a parrot cage.
The 'i' is good value, and I'll often pick one up with my usual rag, but I'm a little worried about their editorial independence, given the new ownership.
New Statesman is good value, if you want to go down the magazine route. Probably wouldn't suite Hipster though.
The heyday of the press is long gone, but they still have a part to play. Sadly, most of them are only fit for lining a parrot cage.
The 'i' is good value, and I'll often pick one up with my usual rag, but I'm a little worried about their editorial independence, given the new ownership.
New Statesman is good value, if you want to go down the magazine route. Probably wouldn't suite Hipster though.
159 Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 09:23
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
No sign yet, Bonce, of the "i" changing its values under the new ownership, thank god.
It's an odd state of affairs when Sky has the best TV news coverage, but the BBC has a number of agenda biases which it tediously flogs to death each day, and ITV has completely lost any credibility, having opted to start the day with Piers Loudmouth shouting down any guest with his one-eyed bigotry and self-aggrandisement. Unwatchably grotesque.
It's an odd state of affairs when Sky has the best TV news coverage, but the BBC has a number of agenda biases which it tediously flogs to death each day, and ITV has completely lost any credibility, having opted to start the day with Piers Loudmouth shouting down any guest with his one-eyed bigotry and self-aggrandisement. Unwatchably grotesque.
160 Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 11:13
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
okocha wrote:and ITV has completely lost any credibility, having opted to start the day with Piers Loudmouth shouting down any guest with his one-eyed bigotry and self-aggrandisement. Unwatchably grotesque.
I find that Piers usually gets it spot on.
His rants are fantastic TV.
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