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361How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Dec 16 2020, 22:37

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
A lot of poorer Tories suffer from the same delusion that many Americans suffer from. They genuinely believe that hard work alone can make you rich and if you are poor it is your own fault. Whilst it is possible to achieve great success through your own efforts the reality is that most very wealthy people inherited their wealth and have done nothing to deserve it.

362How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Thu Dec 17 2020, 15:57

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I'm struggling to understand why the "level playing field" thing is an issue. Both the UK and the EU already trade with many countries that have no or low wage standards and worker's rights which gives them a reduced cost base and therefore a competitive edge. Isn't that why many companies moved their manufacturing to e.g. China and India in the first place? 
And the EU itself has a history of throwing money at business - the UK has had £billions in European Social Fund (ESF) and European Regional Development Find (ERDF) grants to get business moving as well as farming, fishery and scientific innovation subsidies and they still do it throughout Europe.

A simple formula would be to agree the UK can subsidise to the extent of our share of existing subsidies rising in line with "what would have been our share if we had stayed in".
If that can be agreed - and we do have to replace the lost business investment on a fair basis - then it's simply a matter of allowing bilateral access to markets without tariffs. Problem solved.

363How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Dec 18 2020, 11:29

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Rees-Mogg: "Bloody Unicef....coming over here and feeding our children! We've got a footballer to do that, for Christ's sake!"

364How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Dec 18 2020, 11:54

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Mogg is why God blessed us with a middle finger.

365How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Dec 18 2020, 13:49

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Marina Hyde has a few good lines in this rant.

366How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Dec 18 2020, 15:08

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I was wondering what kind of a 'Christian' you'd have to be to look at people not having food to eat and be outraged that UNICEF was feeding them. But then I remembered when Rees-Mogg said that the people who died at Grenfell died because they lacked his commonsense.

367How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Dec 18 2020, 15:22

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Z

368How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Dec 18 2020, 16:47

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@wanderlust wrote:I was reading about wine merchants trying to stock up but having trouble at the ports as everyone is apparently trying to do it and there are already trucks queuing. Shouldn't be too problematic as there are plenty of wines in Oz, NZ, SA and S America. Never heard back from Bob re how he got on with the Portuguese merchant I put him on to - prices are so low that and extra 15% or whatever won't be too punitive. Like a nice Douro red TBF.
I think you must have missed it but I did thank you, Lusty. Had several orders from Portugal Vineyards - excellent choice of wines, good prices and first-class service.

369How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Dec 18 2020, 22:40

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Ten Bobsworth wrote:
I think you must have missed it but I did thank you, Lusty. Had several orders from Portugal Vineyards - excellent choice of wines, good prices and first-class service.
My apologies Bob. Glad it lived up to the billing - and I may just sneak a cheeky order in before New Year's Eve Smile

370How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Dec 19 2020, 12:54

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@okocha wrote:How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Z
Rees Mogg regularly meets this man, on the banks of the Thames, for a tincture of Laudanum.
How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 P1ArPFU
How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 VTXCv0H

371How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Dec 19 2020, 22:43

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Looks like we are heading to a no deal brexit. Largely it seems due to the dispute over fishing. This article provides a good summary of the position:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/46401558

Three key points if you can't be bothered to read the full article:

1. Parts of the British quota have been sold off by British skippers to boats based elsewhere in the EU. In England, for example, more than half the quota is in foreign hands.

2. Most of the fish landed by UK fishermen is exported (while most of the fish eaten in the UK is imported). And of all those exported fish, roughly three quarters are sold within the EU. Some parts of the industry - such as shellfish - are totally dependent on such exports and would collapse if they were suddenly faced with tariffs or taxes on their products.

3. Fishing is only a tiny fraction of the overall economy in the UK - less than 0.1%.

Well done Boris!!!

372How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 12:59

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:Looks like we are heading to a no deal brexit. Largely it seems due to the dispute over fishing. This article provides a good summary of the position:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/46401558

Three key points if you can't be bothered to read the full article:

1. Parts of the British quota have been sold off by British skippers to boats based elsewhere in the EU. In England, for example, more than half the quota is in foreign hands.

2. Most of the fish landed by UK fishermen is exported (while most of the fish eaten in the UK is imported). And of all those exported fish, roughly three quarters are sold within the EU. Some parts of the industry - such as shellfish - are totally dependent on such exports and would collapse if they were suddenly faced with tariffs or taxes on their products.

3. Fishing is only a tiny fraction of the overall economy in the UK - less than 0.1%.

Well done Boris!!!
Nationalist ideology over pragmatism. Sadly the Tories can't be seen to "sell out" the dregs of our fishing industry even if it would bring greater benefits elsewhere in the economy.
Remember the Cod Wars? Full on military engagement and yet we haven't fished our own cod for donkey's years.
All part of the grand Brexit illusion.

373How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 14:50

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I hope Boris isnt going to interrupt Worzel Gummidge. Hopefully he will cancel pointless celebrities for his News Update. Aah it will be on the BBC News channel.

374How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 15:15

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Supermarkets are today warning that the first wave of food shortages are coming a little earlier than expected as Dover is closed and EU countries block trade ostensibly over the new covid strain. Short life products like fruit and veg will be hit first, but rest assured there will be a steady supply of Pepsi and Twirls until at least February.

375How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 15:23

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
I can live without lettuce from Spain.

376How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 18:05

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I mean when the Nation looked drop-jawed at Johnsons hair tonight on his speech it does underline that he is a drinker.

377How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 18:42

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
If you ever go to one of Rees-Moggs parties, you may see him set aside one of his Croquet Lawns for a danse. His preferred danse is the Gavotte. It is a French dance that starts with three demi-coupes and a full coupe. Here you can learn how to danse the Gavotte in the Ress-Mogg style.

378How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 18:45

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Must try that down the pub.

379How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 18:54

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@boltonbonce wrote:Must try that down the pub.
Maybe on New Years Eve you could adapt from the Branles, early 16th Century suite. For added effect of Rees-Mogg authenticity you could danse it to bedknobs and Broomsticks or some other Mary Poppins song.

380How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 19:18

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Rees Mogg once courted Queen Victoria before she met her love Prince Albert. Here is a photo of one of his staff in the pre hedge-fund days.How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 LAaHQu8

381How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Dec 21 2020, 22:46

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Boris and his Cabinet are a bunch of snollygosters! Look it up! Wink Smile

382How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Dec 22 2020, 15:03

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Why is Priti Patel still in office?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55403058



Also: Patel clamed today that the government were 'always ahead of the curve' as far as their response to Covid  was concerned.

How any minister can come out with lies like that and keep a straight face I'll never know.

Their response has been woeful & reactionary. They have never acted with any foresight nor had any plans for what might happen. They cannot be allowed to re-write recent history by spinning it like this.



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383How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Dec 22 2020, 15:18

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Yesterday’s briefing:

Johnson: We have reduced the number of lorries on the M20 from 500 to 170.
Highways Agency: There were 900 lorries on the M20

Johnson: Only 20% of our food transport goes from Dover to Calais
ITV News: That is just on the ferries. A further 26% goes on the Eurotunnel.

Please tell me why we should believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

384How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Dec 22 2020, 15:55

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@okocha wrote:Why is Priti Patel still in office?
She has the video of her and Boris and will publish it  Very Happy

385How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Dec 22 2020, 16:30

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
As I have said before lying is the default position of this government and the biggest liar of all is Boris.

386How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Dec 22 2020, 18:55

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I usually only find one crass Tory decision per day and let some pass without publishing on here, so as not to depress everyone still further, but it's a bumper day for governmental shame today and just has to be shared:

"Boris Johnson has nominated businessman Peter Cruddas for a peerage, despite his rejection by the honours watchdog.
The Lords Appointments Commission did not support ennobling the businessman, who quit as Tory co-treasurer in 2012 following cash-for-access allegations.
Mr Cruddas later won a libel case against a newspaper over its claims.
Mr Johnson rejected the commission's recommendation, becoming the first PM to ignore its advice on a nomination since it was set up in 2000.
Labour accused Mr Johnson - who received £50,000 from Mr Cruddas  for his campaign to become Conservative leader in 2019 - of "cronyism".



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387How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Dec 22 2020, 20:47

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@okocha wrote:I usually only find one crass Tory decision per day and let some pass without publishing on here, so as not to depress everyone still further, but it's a bumper day for governmental shame today and just has to be shared:

"Boris Johnson has nominated businessman Peter Cruddas for a peerage, despite his rejection by the honours watchdog.
The Lords Appointments Commission did not support ennobling the businessman, who quit as Tory co-treasurer in 2012 following cash-for-access allegations.
Mr Cruddas later won a libel case against a newspaper over its claims.
Mr Johnson rejected the commission's recommendation, becoming the first PM to ignore its advice on a nomination since it was set up in 2000.
Labour accused Mr Johnson - who received £50,000 from Mr Cruddas  for his campaign to become Conservative leader in 2019 - of "cronyism".

Some people who shall rename nameless don't seem to recognise cronyism though do they? Smile

388How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Dec 22 2020, 22:30

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@okocha wrote:I usually only find one crass Tory decision per day and let some pass without publishing on here, so as not to depress everyone still further, but it's a bumper day for governmental shame today and just has to be shared:

"Boris Johnson has nominated businessman Peter Cruddas for a peerage, despite his rejection by the honours watchdog.
The Lords Appointments Commission did not support ennobling the businessman, who quit as Tory co-treasurer in 2012 following cash-for-access allegations.
Mr Cruddas later won a libel case against a newspaper over its claims.
Mr Johnson rejected the commission's recommendation, becoming the first PM to ignore its advice on a nomination since it was set up in 2000.
Labour accused Mr Johnson - who received £50,000 from Mr Cruddas  for his campaign to become Conservative leader in 2019 - of "cronyism".

You forgot to post the rest of the article, I wonder why...?

"Mr Cruddas, who has donated more than £3m to the Conservatives since 2007, resigned as party co-treasurer in 2012 after a newspaper story suggested he was offering access to then Prime Minister David Cameron for a donation of £250,000 a year.

But the following year he won £180,000 in damages in a libel victory against the Sunday Times, which had published the claims. The damages were later reduced to £50,000 on appeal.

In a letter to the Lords appointment commission, Mr Johnson said its rejection of Mr Cruddas's nomination for a peerage related "to historic concerns in respect of allegations" made during his time as co-treasurer.

But he added that these had been found to be "untrue and libellous" and that an internal Conservative Party investigation had discovered "no intentional wrongdoing" on Mr Cruddas's part.

Mr Johnson also said the committee had found "no suggestion of any matters of concern" before or since the 2012 allegations".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55414981

Rolling Eyes

389How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Dec 23 2020, 07:06

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

390How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Dec 23 2020, 13:01

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@okocha wrote:Boris and his Cabinet are a bunch of snollygosters! Look it up! Wink Smile
Not guided by principles, especially a politician. Id say that fits him perfectly. Very Happy

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