How is the Tory government doing?

Boris and his Cabinet are a bunch of snollygosters! Look it up!

Why is Priti Patel still in office?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55403058



Also: Patel clamed today that the government were 'always ahead of the curve' as far as their response to Covid  was concerned.

How any minister can come out with lies like that and keep a straight face I'll never know.

Their response has been woeful & reactionary. They have never acted with any foresight nor had any plans for what might happen. They cannot be allowed to re-write recent history by spinning it like this.

okocha wrote:Why is Priti Patel still in office?

She has the video of her and Boris and will publish it 

As I have said before lying is the default position of this government and the biggest liar of all is Boris.

I usually only find one crass Tory decision per day and let some pass without publishing on here, so as not to depress everyone still further, but it's a bumper day for governmental shame today and just has to be shared:

"Boris Johnson has nominated businessman Peter Cruddas for a peerage, despite his rejection by the honours watchdog.
The Lords Appointments Commission did not support ennobling the businessman, who quit as Tory co-treasurer in 2012 following cash-for-access allegations.
Mr Cruddas later won a libel case against a newspaper over its claims.
Mr Johnson rejected the commission's recommendation, becoming the first PM to ignore its advice on a nomination since it was set up in 2000.
Labour accused Mr Johnson - who received £50,000 from Mr Cruddas for his campaign to become Conservative leader in 2019 - of "cronyism".

okocha wrote:I usually only find one crass Tory decision per day and let some pass without publishing on here, so as not to depress everyone still further, but it's a bumper day for governmental shame today and just has to be shared:

"Boris Johnson has nominated businessman Peter Cruddas for a peerage, despite his rejection by the honours watchdog.
The Lords Appointments Commission did not support ennobling the businessman, who quit as Tory co-treasurer in 2012 following cash-for-access allegations.
Mr Cruddas later won a libel case against a newspaper over its claims.
Mr Johnson rejected the commission's recommendation, becoming the first PM to ignore its advice on a nomination since it was set up in 2000.
Labour accused Mr Johnson - who received £50,000 from Mr Cruddas for his campaign to become Conservative leader in 2019 - of "cronyism".

Some people who shall rename nameless don't seem to recognise cronyism though do they?

okocha wrote:I usually only find one crass Tory decision per day and let some pass without publishing on here, so as not to depress everyone still further, but it's a bumper day for governmental shame today and just has to be shared:

"Boris Johnson has nominated businessman Peter Cruddas for a peerage, despite his rejection by the honours watchdog.
The Lords Appointments Commission did not support ennobling the businessman, who quit as Tory co-treasurer in 2012 following cash-for-access allegations.
Mr Cruddas later won a libel case against a newspaper over its claims.
Mr Johnson rejected the commission's recommendation, becoming the first PM to ignore its advice on a nomination since it was set up in 2000.
Labour accused Mr Johnson - who received £50,000 from Mr Cruddas for his campaign to become Conservative leader in 2019 - of "cronyism".

You forgot to post the rest of the article, I wonder why...?

"Mr Cruddas, who has donated more than £3m to the Conservatives since 2007, resigned as party co-treasurer in 2012 after a newspaper story suggested he was offering access to then Prime Minister David Cameron for a donation of £250,000 a year.

But the following year he won £180,000 in damages in a libel victory against the Sunday Times, which had published the claims. The damages were later reduced to £50,000 on appeal.

In a letter to the Lords appointment commission, Mr Johnson said its rejection of Mr Cruddas's nomination for a peerage related "to historic concerns in respect of allegations" made during his time as co-treasurer.

But he added that these had been found to be "untrue and libellous" and that an internal Conservative Party investigation had discovered "no intentional wrongdoing" on Mr Cruddas's part.

Mr Johnson also said the committee had found "no suggestion of any matters of concern" before or since the 2012 allegations".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55414981

The important bit is the fact that Boris has become the first PM to defy the advice of the watchdog.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/22/cronyism-row-as-boris-defies-lords-to-make-tory-donor-a-peer-13795564/


And:-  
https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/13/my-little-crony-map-shows-deals-between-government-mps-and-tory-donors-13587900/

okocha wrote:Boris and his Cabinet are a bunch of snollygosters! Look it up!

Not guided by principles, especially a politician. Id say that fits him perfectly.

The Government is being a little murky. I have been staring into the ball to see if the mist will clear. Scrying may bring more clarity and information than the Government is. I am hoping my Spirit Guide might help me out knowing what the Export Tariffs are going to be.

Carrie Symonds has announced the new Tory Treasurer in her latest reshuffle to take effect in January.

Good to hear a politician apologise sincerely and admit she was in the wrong with no excuses, ifs or buts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55419564

As the Brexit negotiations stagger towards a conclusion there are rumours that Bozo has sold out the Brexiteers in order to get a deal - presumably the details will come out over the next few days but the Daily Fail claims they know a bit about what's been agreed - including accepting 25% of the current EU fishing quota in British waters as opposed to the 60% originally demanded and agreed limitations on government support for businesses.

If this is true, we may still be able to trade with the EU without tariffs and we may even retain some of our travel rights - great news.

I have always thought that Cummings would have insisted on a no deal exit, but with him gone and public opinion showing a majority disapproving of Brexit anyway it's clear that the PM will do whatever public opinion dictates. However, I imagine the Brexiteers will label it as a sellout, and of course europhiles will point to all the rights and privileges we have lost so I'm struggling to see how Boris will survive more than a few months, but politics is a strange business so you never know.

Assuming there is a deal, whatever the terms, it will be portrayed as a great triumph for Boris personally. So I expect him to be PM for some time. Whether he leads the Tories into the next election is I think more unlikely.

Cue the return of the smirk! 

Some of the recent headlines and articles in the Sun, Express and Mail have been vile and utter distortions of events, so you can imagine how they'll read now....

Thank goodness there'll still be no raucous cheeering and infantile behaviour in the HoC for the present.....

But a very happy Christmas to all, especially BWFC fans! I have a feeling that 2021 will be more cheery all round, particularly if those who are determined to pick and prolong arguments on here desist!

Still waiting on the details of the deal but at least it seems like the economy won't be sacrificed completely. I was listening to the prick from the Brexit party who coined the phrase "no deal is better than a bad deal" doing a u-turn on the radio so it seems some degree of common sense has filtered through to even them. Huge sigh of relief if we come out of this with at least some of the things we had especially zero tariffs on trade - still it's a shame about the mountains of additional red tape business will be taking on. But it's clear that a shit deal is better than no deal given the mess we've got ourselves into.
Apparently they're still discussing fishing rights - despite the fact that the entire UK fishing industry contributes less to the economy than Harrod's store in London.

okocha wrote:Cue the return of the smirk! 

Some of the recent headlines and articles in the Sun, Express and Mail have been vile and utter distortions of events, so you can imagine how they'll read now....

The Express made me laugh last week - one day they were belligerently crowing about deploying navy patrol boats against French fishermen - and the next day they were blaming the bad attitude of the French as being responsible for the lorry queues on the M20.

Confirmed officially now

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) December 24, 2020

Here is the government's statement: "Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal."

"We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters

"The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK.

"We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU.

"The deal is the biggest bilateral trade deal signed by either side, covering trade worth £668bn in 2019.

"The deal also guarantees that we are no longer in the lunar pull of the EU, we are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved.

"It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021."

"A points-based immigration system will put us in full control of who enters the UK and free movement will end.

"We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time, and under extremely challenging conditions, which protects the integrity of our internal market and Northern Ireland’s place within it.

"We have got Brexit done and we can now take full advantage of the fantastic opportunities available to us as an independent trading nation, striking trade deals with other partners around the world."


Almost as though I actually knew what I was talking about...

Sluffy wrote:Haven't you got it yet, it's all just a big game.

Both sides KNOW there has to be a deal because it is the BEST for both sides.

So it's always been a dance as to who can sell the final 'compromise' outcome to their respective country's electorate - neither side wants to appear to have had their pants pulled down over the outcome.

It was always going to be ending with a stage where the big chiefs of each side had to step in and save the day.

In the end nobody will get what they ideally wanted but both sides will sell it as them achieving a great deal for their respective sides.

I honestly doubt most of us will even notice the difference to our daily lives and even if we did, the change would be blamed because of 'Covid'

If idiots like you hadn't voted for Brexit in the first place then non of this would have even happened.

https://boltonnuts.forumotion.co.uk/t21530p300-how-is-the-tory-government-doing#418228