How is the Tory government doing?

T.R.O.Y. wrote:Great news! We’re not as free as we were, thanks Priti

Well the racists who voted for brexit are in for a treat. What this means in reality is that there will be fewer Europeans entering the UK but more people from southern Asia and many of them will be Muslims.

So Joe finally got around to calling Johnson (Trump fan) Merkel (Trump hater - the handshake incident) and Macron (Trump hater - he pulled out of the Paris agreement and the Iran deal) Would have loved to have listened in to those chats.

Immigration bill is interesting inasmuch that it clears the way for an Aussie-style points system - although that will more likely based on e.g. can you pick carrots as opposed to do you have a doctorate in chemistry. No details available as they haven't even handed out the £80 million consultancy to design the questionnaire yet.

Should we be even remotely surprised at this piece of news which clearly shows the Tories' underhand tricks....especially when "Honest Bob" Jenrick is involved?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54894221

No doubt Sluffy will post an essay telling us that we know nothing and there is nothing to see here.

xmiles wrote:No doubt Sluffy will post an essay telling us that we know nothing and there is nothing to see here.

I've had Bob on "ignore" for a while now. Distasteful views, attitudes and language! 
Are we allowed to put Mods on "ignore" as well?

xmiles wrote:No doubt Sluffy will post an essay telling us that we know nothing and there is nothing to see here.

He won't as he's already cited the PAC as being the benchmark in his opinion.
He may come back with the rather tired "he's not breaking the law" trope again though (AKA the Ken Anderson defence in chess circles)
However this should be in the cronyism thread as the funding was directed at Tory election targets and parallels their activities in handing out contracts and appointments (on which note there's another Cummings flunkey getting a new job today) I believe it's a new job in the Ministry of Public Mind Control.

He is another Gammon. Like the one who tried to grill me about left-wing bias on the Bus this week.

Edit - this post is in the wrong thread. I meant to post it in the Trump thread.
Ignore this post as wrong thead. I shall relocate it.

When I say about another Gammon, I am on about Trump.

The rift in the Tory party seems to be gathering pace with the "resignation" of Lee Cain and the further loosening of Vote Leave's grip on the Government. Carrie Symonds appears to be leading the charge away from the confrontational and disruptive style of government espoused by Cummings and his dwindling cronies towards a more recognisably traditional conservative style and there is even talk in Tory circles that the evil alien himself might go.
I'm not holding out any hope that it will happen though, but if the Vote Leave yes men he ushered into senior positions continue to lose their posts he might eventually find his own position untenable.
All of which is highly ironic as Brexit itself is due to start in 7 weeks time, borrowing has spiralled out of control, international relations are in the balance and there's a pandemic to deal with. In a way, I'd like Cummings to still be around when the shit hits the fan despite treason no longer being a capital offence. Life imprisonment will just have to do.

Is there only me who thought it was funny that the Boris's Director of Communications is someone called Lee Cain (leakin' - get it!)

Must be just me then!

Also why has the PM's girlfriend got such a big say in his advisors?

Isn't that a bit like when Neil Lennon's bit on the side was picking our starting eleven?

It all seems a bit surreal to me.

So, who would Boris prefer as his "bride"....Carrie or Dominic? 

Both partners evidently further examples of Boris' poor judgement in important affairs?

Fucking Awful.

Interesting. Great research!
Which two and a half do you think they've fulfilled, Lusty?

Yet another u-turn on the way, this time on Honest Bob Jenrick's housing plans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54950012

okocha wrote:Interesting. Great research!
Which two and a half do you think they've fulfilled, Lusty?

They announced the points-based immigration system the other week and although net immigration has remained at the same level for the last 5 years theoretically an Australian-style system will eventually lead to an overall reduction in immigration depending on how it's managed. It'll be interesting to see how they apply it to the European seasonal workers on whom we depend.
1 point.
They've also managed a trade deal with Japan although it's arguably worse than the one we had with Japan in the EU. I know this doesn't replace the 45 excellent EU trade deals we have enjoyed over the last 40 years but I thought I'd give them half a point for the barefaced cheek of it.
The tampon tax is in the balance hence a half. They did promise to scrap the VAT - they just didn't mention import duty. 
And there's another half for dumping the ECJ although that's also in the balance depending on how much UK is forced to concede.
Obviously if we walk away without a deal that will become a point - but the NHS, the farmers, the fishermen, the scientists, manufacturers, exporters, businesses in general and every household in the UK will be far worse off than we were in 2016 so it will ensure all the other promises will never be fulfilled.

Parody Boris

“It’s vital that everyone follows the rules” says PM pictured under 2 metres from fellow MPs without a mask at a meeting that could have been virtual. pic.twitter.com/hrd3N2RP3a

— David Schneider (@davidschneider) November 16, 2020

It's unbelievable how often Blundering Boris manages to mess up......it's almost daily! 

The worst was when he managed to get Nazanin Zaghari Ratcliffe's sentence in Iran doubled, but this is almost as bad:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54965593

 Constant need to apologise or back down.

The man's a liability who thinks that a few metaphors, allusions to Greek or Roman history/mythology and that perennial smirk will be an adequate substitute for statesmanlike, carefully considered words.

Also:- stands too close to a minister with Covid; and does not initially back the new USA covid-beating drug so that we are now at the back of the queue to get adequate supplies. All in a day's work, Boris!

okocha wrote:It's unbelievable how often Blundering Boris manages to mess up......it's almost daily! 

The worst was when he managed to get Nazanin Zaghari Ratcliffe's sentence in Iran doubled, but this is almost as bad:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54965593

 Constant need to apologise or back down.

The man's a liability who thinks that a few metaphors, allusions to Greek or Roman history/mythology and that perennial smirk will be an adequate substitute for statesmanlike, carefully considered words.

Also:- stands too close to a minister with Covid; and does not initially back the new USA covid-beating drug so that we are now at the back of the queue to get adequate supplies. All in a day's work, Boris!

Whilst Boris may be a joke, it's no joke that they are talking about No Deal again. No it's not hardline negotiation or posturing - the time for that has long passed - now they are talking about it because of the simple fact that if the Tories are not going to renege on their promises to Leave voters they simply won't get a deal - and it's almost as if after years of negotiation and countless warnings, they have just realised it.
Whilst other countries don't have a deal with the EU yet - including Australia, Canada and the USA - they all have something we don't - loads and loads of targeted sector - specific deals in place that supercede WTO rules in the main sectors they trade in - so the alternative isn't a "Canada style" or "Australian style" deal because we have NOTHING.
And given that we get more than half of our imports from the EU and sell around 43% of our exports to the EU we are presenting our international competitors in a global market with an open goal - the perfect chance to eliminate the UK as an economic force in the world.
Sad to see what we have built over hundreds of years sacrificed - and for what?

Is he self-isolating in a Fridge? Covid to the rescue again?